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From what I'd guess, the soviet engineers made it possible to rearm/change weapon pods during engines running. Was this just not implemented yet, or does ED have sources that even in combat areas, Mi-8 crews would have to shut down both engines to rearm (this would take many minutes...) ?

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At some point, in Afghanistan maybe? With more than 17000 of them built, I can't imagine that there wasn't a single conflict where they kept the engines running

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What I found is that Mi-24 (yes, not Mi-8, but also a russian helicopter) also was rearmed with running engines, here for example:

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Hi,

 

though I don't own the Mi-8 I've seen a friend of mine rearm it several times with engines running, so I asked him about that.

 

He told me that a switch has to be put on ICS (intercom) and then you don't need to wind down the engines.

 

Below a photo as an example, don't worry about the arrows, those are not mine but you can see the 'ICS' he's talking about. Give it a try.

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Repairing needs the engines to be spooled down and off. Rearming can be done by opening the window and putting the switch in the intercom position, after that, refueling and rearming should be possible.

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Awesome! Thanks!

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Related new issue: Apparently, currently, one has to have some radio menu open to get rearmed? -.- Please fix

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Dragen, Gripen, Hornet etc are/were refueled and rearmed engines running. That is why you get 10-15min turn around times with those on ground bases. You don't turn engines of unless there is a engine problems, meaning you don't fly for next hours before engine is either swapped or repaired, meaning anyways removing engine from fuselage.

 

And that is done without radio even, just with hands signals to ground crew.

 

With helicopter the crew is there to do rearming and refueling as well.


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And your post helps me/us how? xD

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again not a bug. not for the mi8 not for the F14 not for the A10C, not for the KA50 not for the F18 or any module in DCS. . you must shut down engines to repair. all modules. all the time.

 

Pull the cords, eject!

 

Daniel, just because you have been posting this exact same issue everywhere on the forums with modules, and especially listing it as a DCS bug does not make it an actual bug or problem. You need to have your engines off. You have been giving this answer numerous times and you have still posted in many places hoping for something different.

 

Please take this with a grain of salt, I do not mean to be rude or offensive.

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It's not about repairing but about rearming. The rearming menu (Alt+/) doesn't work with engines running in the Mi-8. You have to request it via Comm menu.

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Pull the cords, eject!

 

Daniel, just because you have been posting this exact same issue everywhere on the forums with modules, and especially listing it as a DCS bug does not make it an actual bug or problem. You need to have your engines off. You have been giving this answer numerous times and you have still posted in many places hoping for something different.

 

Please take this with a grain of salt, I do not mean to be rude or offensive.

 

I think you'll find you only need one engine off, rearm and refuel works for me on the carrier with the left engine shutdown...

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