Rogue Trooper Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) If I fly without steam (DCS standalone)? do I need Steam VR? OK, waiting for someone to come into the conversation. Sorry if this has been asked over and over again guys. Edited December 9, 2019 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yes you do. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 If I fly without steam (DCS standalone)? do I need Steam VR? OK, waiting for someone to come into the conversation. Sorry if this has been asked over and over again guys.You may not need to install steam application but definitely would need the steamVR application. Steamvr applications is what interfaces your headset and dcs world. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ok, good to know. I will start to look into the steam VR application and whether I can install it without steam. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Ok, good to know. I will start to look into the steam VR application and whether I can install it without steam. DCS standalone needs SteamVR installed (and WMR) to run but it won't show, DCS suppresses the SteamVR popup window (lately), which is a bore, but perhaps shows a tad faster coding. | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 WMR is just a generic programme that will install when installing the HP reverb I guess. HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 WMR is just a generic programme that will install when installing the HP reverb I guess. There is 'Mixed Reality Portal' that auto installs by Windows when a WMR is detected and has the VR 'mirror' window and is for all WMR software, but you also need to find and install 'Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR' on Steam, so your Reverb can launch SteamVR games with 'openVR' emulation, not so much Oculus, that needs the same for Steam Vive protocol. | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Trooper Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) There is 'Mixed Reality Portal' that auto installs by Windows when a WMR is detected and has the VR 'mirror' window and is for all WMR software, but you also need to find and install 'Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR' on Steam, so your Reverb can launch SteamVR games with 'openVR' emulation, not so much Oculus, that needs the same for Steam Vive protocol. Cool... cut and pasted into word. So steamVR with openVR is the VR version of openGL software for standard graphics cards and standard monitors? Vulkan or Vulcan comes to mind for some reason.... something I read about recently... is this something to do with it or am I in the wrong ball park? Edited December 10, 2019 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb, Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate as standard. OpenXR user, Open XR tool kit disabled. Open XR was a massive upgrade for me. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 0 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA. My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC at the mo. MT user (2 - 5 fps gain). DCS run at 60Hz. Vaicom user. Thrustmaster warthog user. MFG pedals with damper upgrade.... and what an upgrade! Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height with brail enhancements to ensure 100% button activation in VR.. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound.... you know when you are dropping into VRS with this bad boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 If I fly without steam (DCS standalone)? do I need Steam VR? OK, waiting for someone to come into the conversation. Sorry if this has been asked over and over again guys. For Reverb, yes. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I hope ED makes WMR Support for DCS without SteamVR soon. Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Just got my lenses from VR Optician and the impact is... shocking I can read everything; the level of clarity has gone from good to as clear and crisp as the desktop … the MFD's the cockpit switch labels... everything is so clear; here are my in game settings Edited December 10, 2019 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just got my lenses from VR Optician and the impact is... shocking I can read everything; the level of clarity has gone from good to as clear and crisp as the desktop … the MFD's the cockpit switch labels... everything is so clearYea this is why I always wear my contacts in vr. People think they don't need to use their glasses because it's up close but this isn't the case. I just wish I didn't have to spend an additional $80 for snap on lenses for each headset. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 yeah, I had some for my O+ and they were an improvement ...but this ... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorzasty Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just got my lenses from VR Optician and the impact is... shocking I can read everything; the level of clarity has gone from good to as clear and crisp as the desktop … the MFD's the cockpit switch labels... everything is so clear; here are my in game settings Does such a new lenses can improve also the sweet spot? Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu Tapatalka PC: i7 13700k, 64GB RAM 3200MHz DDR4, RTX 4090, VR: Quest 3. VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, crosswinds rudder pedals, VPC panel CP3, WinWing PTO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Does such a new lenses can improve also the sweet spot? Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu TapatalkaNot sure but it's as if you are wearing your glasses. It really depends how the lenses are built to fit the reverb. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorzasty Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Ok, right. I don't use glasses but was wandering can I buy some better than default one. Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu Tapatalka PC: i7 13700k, 64GB RAM 3200MHz DDR4, RTX 4090, VR: Quest 3. VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, crosswinds rudder pedals, VPC panel CP3, WinWing PTO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Ok, right. I don't use glasses but was wandering can I buy some better than default one. Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu TapatalkaNope it's only if you normally wear glasses or contacts to correct your vision. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Does such a new lenses can improve also the sweet spot? Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu Tapatalka in the sense that my corrected vison has more clarity, across the field of view then yes... in the absolute sense of increasing the area where my eyes must focus (e.g. minimising head turns) not so much SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Since yesterday I fly with ingame SS,MS and AF off and PD1.0. In Steam VR with 200% SS.Works great,fells Smooth with Motionreprojection and looks ultra Sharp and Clear. Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 .. In Steam VR with 200% SS You run Steem DCS or standalone? My standalone won't let the SteamVR popup. Your 'Steam VR with 200% SS' that is in SteamVR 'app' section and is named "RUN" or "DCS"? | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Ok, right. I don't use glasses but was wandering can I buy some better than default one. Wysłane z mojego SM-G960F przy użyciu Tapatalka No. I contacted them about this and they said no. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 You run Steem DCS or standalone? My standalone won't let the SteamVR popup. Your 'Steam VR with 200% SS' that is in SteamVR 'app' section and is named "RUN" or "DCS"?I have the Standalone running with Steam VR. In the SteamVR Options you can Choose a custom Super Sampling. How do you get DCS with only WMR Running? Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 How do you get DCS with only WMR Running? Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk very simple you don't. DCS doesn't run on WMR natively. You need SteamVR for WMR or soemthing like that to run DCS. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) I have the Standalone running with Steam VR. In the SteamVR Options you can Choose a custom Super Sampling. How do you get DCS with only WMR Running? There's an option somewhere - I forgot where - 'load SteamVR with program start' It appears that should be off to set App SS NOPE just checked my 'load SteamVR with program start' is OFF, my SteamVR popup does not show edit: start WMR for Steam from within steam brought up the SteamVR popup, and then start DCS and then one can set SS in SteamVR 'APP settings' under 'DCS' Edited December 11, 2019 by majapahit | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody01 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 So many hours of use down now and I am very happy with the Reverb, for me it was a great choice. Funny story. I was flying along on one of our squad nights and all was going well, then I started to have some bad tracking issues, gradually getting worse. When it became unplayable I took the headset off to discover while I was deeply immersed in the VR world of DCS it had turned to night and I forgot to put the lights on in my room! :megalol: Pro tip: Inside out tracking doesn't work very well in the dark. :D Mine is one of the new batch of units, VR1000. The Flying Kiwis - Since ages ago... Find us at https://www.simcentral.co.nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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