ECTAE Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Something fishy here. I also wrote 43505 in the title of one of my posts, only to see later that it was wrong. I initially blamed it on a typo / poor eyesight, as I copied the number off the main menu screen. Maybe I had copied it correctly after all, and it's changed since? Yeah I did the same. Just copy/paste and now I see is 03 instead of 05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Low Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Was there even an official announcement of the roll back? Is it just steam, or both steam and the normal version? Did they suggest when the update will be re-issued? I can't find any official statement. I've clicked through several forums and threads and I'm tired of hunting this crap down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Was there even an official announcement of the roll back? Is it just steam, or both steam and the normal version? Did they suggest when the update will be re-issued? I can't find any official statement. I've clicked through several forums and threads and I'm tired of hunting this crap down. Haven’t seen an official statement. I don’t use Steam, as it takes a performance hit (VR user here). I use Standalone, and have not been promoted to roll back when starting DCS, while SkateZilla has a tool to rollback to different versions - I haven’t bothered. 2.5.6 is broken in several regards, but personally, I am continuing to test things and try to assist for future releases/fixes. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Haven’t seen an official statement. I don’t use Steam, as it takes a performance hit (VR user here). I use Standalone, and have not been promoted to roll back when starting DCS, while SkateZilla has a tool to rollback to different versions - I haven’t bothered. 2.5.6 is broken in several regards, but personally, I am continuing to test things and try to assist for future releases/fixes. Cheers, Don Hi! Do you have any proof of this performance hit on Steam in VR? I'm asking, because I'd like to win some fps :D BR AG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Hi! Do you have any proof of this performance hit on Steam in VR? I'm asking, because I'd like to win some fps :D BR AG I use Oculus Rift CV1. Originally used Steam, which then launches SteamVR, on top of having to have Oculus software open, then DCS software. Using standalone, only requires Oculus and DCS software. Instantly frees up resources of your PC. I don’t recall the exact FPS increase, but it was between 5-10 FPS. Take into account that FPS increase, along with reduction of CPU and RAM usage of the additional software running while using Steam, equals more performance. Then you can use Oculus Tray Tool to further extract performance gains. I use OTT for super sampling (1.2), disable selective USB suspend, disable oculus mirror, disable Rift power management and probably forgot something else in there..... Cheers, Don Edited February 17, 2020 by Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwulf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi! Do you have any proof of this performance hit on Steam in VR? I'm asking, because I'd like to win some fps :D BR AG Had a few mates say they actually had an improvement with steam - on Oculus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Had a few mates say they actually had an improvement with steam - on Oculus. Not my experience, certainly on a “busier” server like one of the ones I have flown with you, in terms of players and/or environment. Single player, marginal. At the end of the day, the more programs running, taking CPU, GPU and RAM - the more resources are being utilized from a system. Cheers, Don i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Not entirely true, What is this for?, users/yourname/appdata/local/temp/DCS.openbetaThe Temp folder holds "temporary" files. As said correctly, you can move the DCS program folder and it creates the necessary structure and defaults in your user files if not present. BUT if you have older modules that use StarForce protection, you need to deactivate/reactivate the license if you move to an unauthorized PC. On the same system the activation should be working for all installs no matter where. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger1-1 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 So when to expect the hotfix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I use Oculus Rift CV1. Originally used Steam, which then launches SteamVR, on top of having to have Oculus software open, then DCS software. Using standalone, only requires Oculus and DCS software. Instantly frees up resources of your PC. I don’t recall the exact FPS increase, but it was between 5-10 FPS. Take into account that FPS increase, along with reduction of CPU and RAM usage of the additional software running while using Steam, equals more performance. Then you can use Oculus Tray Tool to further extract performance gains. I use OTT for super sampling (1.2), disable selective USB suspend, disable oculus mirror, disable Rift power management and probably forgot something else in there..... Cheers, Don Alrthough that is all true, it is not really relevant as it depends on the resources available whether a process has an effect or not on performance. SteamVR uses 500Mb of system RAM and Steam a measly 120Mb. In terms of CPU, SteamVR uses 1.1% and Steam 0.1% when I checked whilst running DCS in VR. With all due respect, I don't accept your 5-10fps Steam overhead. It's pretty negligible I think. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperwolfpk5 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Very strange people have issues with 2.5.6 but I have much better performance. Before it was a nightmare to join a server and now it is very fast. When using F2 view camera my game stuck and it take time to load terrain. Now it is butter smooth. I thing this is due to differences in hardware. Some people have gained performance and some lost. By the way thank you ED for new lighting and water. Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell_rj Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 >> I thing this is due to differences in hardware. Some people have gained performance and some lost. That doesn't make any sense. My hardware is significantly better than yours so my experience should be even better, if the new code introduced performance improvements. That hasn't happened. There is something else going on here. PC specs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Flew for several more hours over PG in the Harrier. Performance seems relatively unaffected, possibly even slightly better. Plenty of other bugs, though Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperwolfpk5 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I have deleted FX and Metashader folders after updated to 2.5.6. Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 17, 2020 ED Team Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi all Just to let you know we will likely see a steam update first with a fix for not starting issue. We are planning another patch for 2.5.6 this week thank you for your patience. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagiPashka Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi all Just to let you know we will likely see a steam update first with a fix for not starting issue. We are planning another patch for 2.5.6 this week thank you for your patience. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loribo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi everyone, Quick question on the new Beta update 2.5.6 and 3rd party files. In the previous patch I had a new sound mod for the FA-18 C installed and during 2.5.6 update I backed up the sound mod. Now DCS_OpenBeta shows me a new "Sounds.edc" folder (with a lot of subfolders numbered) and the backed up files folders. It looks like the original F-18 soundpack is playing now: how can I have the mod running again? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Another patch sounds great. I hope we will get additional TGP modes at least... ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 17, 2020 ED Team Share Posted February 17, 2020 Steam version 2.5.6 will be live soon. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi everyone, Quick question on the new Beta update 2.5.6 and 3rd party files. In the previous patch I had a new sound mod for the FA-18 C installed and during 2.5.6 update I backed up the sound mod. Now DCS_OpenBeta shows me a new "Sounds.edc" folder (with a lot of subfolders numbered) and the backed up files folders. It looks like the original F-18 soundpack is playing now: how can I have the mod running again? https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=263371 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester224 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Steam version 2.5.6 will be live soon. thank you More excited than a kid on Christmas eve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagiPashka Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Steam version 2.5.6 will be live soon. thank you :pilotfly::pilotfly::pilotfly::joystick::joystick::joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 17, 2020 ED Team Share Posted February 17, 2020 To be clear this only addresses the bug with steam version not starting. We will have another patch later in the week also thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagiPashka Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 To be clear this only addresses the bug with steam version not starting. We will have another patch later in the week also thank you Well, I was expecting just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaoqumba Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 To be clear this only addresses the bug with steam version not starting. We will have another patch later in the week also thank you Two updates?! This is incredible! Thank you!：thumbup： Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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