Hammer1-1 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 After yesterday's hotfix and these shaders, I was getting issues with ghosting and objects failing to render. Loading extremely long, despite the sim already booting a few times. I ended up deleting the shader mod and everything worked well again. So maybe some incompatibility? It always takes a long time to rebuild shader files, which si what you are supposed to do when you install this mod. the more modules you have, the longer it takes. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfan86 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It always takes a long time to rebuild shader files, which si what you are supposed to do when you install this mod. the more modules you have, the longer it takes. After a shader update or a dcs update i always boot up a quick flight in all of my maps to recompile shaders while im doing other things, then when i want to play, its not a long wait when i go into vr System: Ryzen 5900x, G.Skill 3600 32GB, MSI 4090 suprim liquid X, samsung odyssey+ headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroptheHammer Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Does the shader mod work with 49798? I really like the MSAA mask feature and NVG adjustments. While the notes say MSAA mask is in the native game.. i'm not finding any performance improvements from using it and I cant see any visual differences. New Setup : 13900K, Asus ROG Strix 4090, 64GB of DDR3600C14, 4x 2TB ADATA NVME, HP Reverb G2, Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil TM3 throttle, Monolith External Amp, DT 1990 Pro Headphones & TrackIR v5 Old Setup: 12900KS @ 5.5 , EVGA FTW3 Hybrid 3090, 64GB of DDR3600C14, 4x 2TB ADATA NVME, HP Reverb G2, Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil TM3 throttle, Monolith External Amp, Philips X2HR Headphones & TrackIR v5 Old Old Setup: 9900KS @ 5.2, EVGA FTW3 3090. 32GB of DDR3866, 3x 1TB ADATA NVME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESA_v1T1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Does the shader mod work with 49798? I really like the MSAA mask feature and NVG adjustments. While the notes say MSAA mask is in the native game.. i'm not finding any performance improvements from using it and I cant see any visual differences. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST0RM Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 It always takes a long time to rebuild shader files, which si what you are supposed to do when you install this mod. the more modules you have, the longer it takes. I read the install instructions and have been using this mod for a while now. What I experienced, was something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 It almost always takes me about a half hour to recompile shaders after deleting them. Its even worse if you try to do it online, especially in a large server. Thats been my experience for the last 6 months or so... Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 so bear in mind you don't have to rename/delete the terrains directory anymore so it should be considerably faster SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomcatFly Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 In case someone had already renamed the terrain "dcs" dirs (emptying them and for example renaming to "dcs.old"), should we need to rename them back to "dcs" or it's still fine like that, with current shaders? And also, the day I'd like to stop using the shaders, what about these terrains "dcs" folders? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) yes you can rename them from *.old... , if you wanted to stop using them from an earlier version then yes you would have to rename them to stop using the mod successfully, luckily you wont need to do that because you can rename them now and use the mod. the uninstall instructions are just remove the files you applied with Modman or OVGME or JGSME or repair your DCS Installation Edited May 29, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomcatFly Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 yes you can rename them from *.old... , if you wanted to stop using them from an earlier version then yes you would have to rename them to stop using the mod successfully, luckily you wont need to do that because you can rename them now and use the mod. the uninstall instructions are just remove the files you applied with Modman or OVGME or JGSME or repair your DCS Installation Ok! So, to go back one day to no-shaders, it will be enough to disable the mod by JGSME and/or do a repair. And to keep going with shaders normally, I could potentially already rename back the dcs.old folders (empty) to dcs, right? Thank you again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 yep SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 so bear in mind you don't have to rename/delete the terrains directory anymore so it should be considerably faster cant exactly do that when upgrading this mod Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 sure you can... name them back.. to dcs from dcs.old, or repair if you deleted them SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 so why bother deleting the folders then? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hi all, again thanks to @Kegetys for this mod, i believe i have a working mod for both Clear Water and IC pass. attached here. For IC pass to work, you have to let the shaders build once, it will fail the IC pass, exit the game and reload and it should pass. Some changes you make in system settings, may also trigger an IC Pass fail, again exit the game and reload and it should work (no i don't know why that's the case) and my guess is it will likely work with the native mod as well. This does not seem to Pass IC but does provide Clear water. use the version here for an IC pass version YMMV. Hi Speed.. I don't really care about IC. But would you happen to know to make the water a little clearer? Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) so why bother deleting the folders then? :) there isn't anymore, Kegetys mentioned it when he released the latest patch ! It used to serve the function of forcing a shader rebuild using the correct files, now it doesnt need to do that Edited May 29, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Hi Speed.. I don't really care about IC. But would you happen to know to make the water a little clearer? check my sig, on my 2.5.6 settings, the clear water version is attached there SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 :) there isn't anymore, Kegetys mentioned it when he released the latest patch ! It used to serve the function of forcing a shader rebuild using the correct files, now it doesnt need to do that thats nice to know, didnt know that. now i do. thanks for the heads up. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 :) there isn't anymore, Kegetys mentioned it when he released the latest patch ! It used to serve the function of forcing a shader rebuild using the correct files, now it doesnt need to do that Hold on, we don't need to delete fxo and metashaders any longer? Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 thats what he said Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Also, it seems DCS nowdays correctly picks up changes in the metashaders and deleting/renaming the metashader directiores for terrain is no longer necessary so I removed that part from the install instructions. nope he said... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 nope he said... So fxo still needs deleted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 i must admit i haven't , and had no ill effects SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Tried again the most recent version, still won't work for me. Takes ages to load, probably because of recompiling the shaders, reminded me of the very first 256 version unmodded. And then, again, I don't get to see my own A/C, not even the cockpit, but I'm "in place" and can get the labels of cockpit elements to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 That happened to me once, exited the game and re ran and all was good SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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