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There is a sound that the throttle makes when you go into the AB detent. Listen to that :)

 

But this isn't the greatest solution.

 

By giving a button option I can place my throttles forward quickly and positively and not be concerned on whether or not I entered the AB, I know I did not unless I pressed the button. No need to look, no need to listen, I can be confident I'm where I want to be.

 

Needing to listen for a specific sound when radios and going, Jester is talking, I'm paying attention to other stuff is a bit ridiculous.

 

Please provide an option for a detent similar to what the hornet has. That's a better solution for some, myself included.

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+1 on this. A option like in Falcon 4.0 where you could set your own AB activation point would be very useful!

 

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Or even just what the hornet has. I've been trying to press this issue for a while. Seems to be ignored

 

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But it does, you just have to enable user curve and slider and you can set the throttle activation of the afterburner after the detent.

My settings are:

local diff = {

["axisDiffs"] = {

["a2005cdnil"] = {

["changed"] = {

[1] = {

["filter"] = {

["curvature"] = {

[1] = 0,

[2] = 0.04,

[3] = 0.08,

[4] = 0.12,

[5] = 0.17,

[6] = 0.24,

[7] = 0.39,

[8] = 0.55,

[9] = 0.71,

[10] = 0.86,

[11] = 1,

},

["deadzone"] = 0,

["invert"] = false,

["saturationX"] = 1,

["saturationY"] = 1,

["slider"] = true,

},

["key"] = "JOY_RZ",

},

},

["name"] = "Throttle Left",

},

["a2006cdnil"] = {

["changed"] = {

[1] = {

["filter"] = {

["curvature"] = {

[1] = 0,

[2] = 0.04,

[3] = 0.08,

[4] = 0.12,

[5] = 0.17,

[6] = 0.24,

[7] = 0.39,

[8] = 0.55,

[9] = 0.71,

[10] = 0.86,

[11] = 1,

},

["deadzone"] = 0,

["invert"] = false,

["saturationX"] = 1,

["saturationY"] = 1,

["slider"] = true,

},

["key"] = "JOY_Z",

},

},

["name"] = "Throttle Right",

},

},

}

return diff

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That's if you have a physical detent. I believe the OP is asking for a software one. Like I linked earlier

 

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I made an audio AB detent mod, if that is useful to you? It works on my x55 Throttle.

 

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For owners of TM Warthogs, at the risk of stating something everyone already knows, there is a physical detent contained in the throttle.

 

 

Unscrew the dividing panel between the throttle levers.

 

 

In side the slot at the front you will see the detent stop. It has a red rectangular section moulded into it in the front section. This is the afterburner stop. It is disabled for the A-10C by its position

 

 

Lift out this piece and rotate it 180 degrees and replace it. The red piece should now be towards the rear.

 

 

Screw the dividing panel back on.

 

 

Now when you need to engage afterburners you just push up to full military power, the throttles engage the the red piece in the slot and stop their travel. You just pull/lift the lever handles up and push them over this "stop" to engage afterburners.

 

 

As I say, I would imagine most people know about this but there might be someone on here still unaware of this feature.

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For owners of TM Warthogs, at the risk of stating something everyone already knows, there is a physical detent contained in the throttle.

 

 

Unscrew the dividing panel between the throttle levers.

 

 

In side the slot at the front you will see the detent stop. It has a red rectangular section moulded into it in the front section. This is the afterburner stop. It is disabled for the A-10C by its position

 

 

Lift out this piece and rotate it 180 degrees and replace it. The red piece should now be towards the rear.

 

 

Screw the dividing panel back on.

 

 

Now when you need to engage afterburners you just push up to full military power, the throttles engage the the red piece in the slot and stop their travel. You just pull/lift the lever handles up and push them over this "stop" to engage afterburners.

 

 

As I say, I would imagine most people know about this but there might be someone on here still unaware of this feature.

 

 

I highly recommend this aftermarket detent for the Warthog. It is a push though design, where you have to add extra pressure and the throttles pop into afterburner. A more realistic approach than have to lift up.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/3MJPNE2SV/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent?optionId=63799442&li=related-items

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yeah that is true but you still need to use a curve to have the physical detent work as it should. The way I tested is to see if DLC and speedbrake retracts at hitting the MIL detent but not going into AB. In the F-14 when you hit MIL they are supposed to automatically retract.

 

Have to be careful with your power inputs tho, it has screwed me up on approach alot when I give too much power and all that retracts and I have to extend them again (thats if i'm paying attention and I notice it and react quickly)

 

this has been an age old gripe in DCS, why not have it so you could physically in the sim place where you want AB detent to be and then have MIL - IDLE as linear control???

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I highly recommend this aftermarket detent for the Warthog. It is a push though design, where you have to add extra pressure and the throttles pop into afterburner. A more realistic approach than have to lift up.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/3MJPNE2SV/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent?optionId=63799442&li=related-items

 

Looks awesome. However, I just can't buy a piece of plastic for $13 and then pay $16 shipping for said item, as a matter of principle.

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Looks awesome. However, I just can't buy a piece of plastic for $13 and then pay $16 shipping for said item, as a matter of principle.
Go to a local 3d printing service then, someone posted a file here on the forums, it worked great for me

 

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Looks awesome. However, I just can't buy a piece of plastic for $13 and then pay $16 shipping for said item, as a matter of principle.

 

Or do what I copied from others and once installed correctly so that you need to lift over the gate, have a look at how the plastic piece (already supplied with TMWH) actually lifts the throttles up and then remove it and remove some of the plastic with a electricians knife so that the angle of lift is much less severe.

That will enable you to push through the gate without lifting.

Works a treat! And it’s free.

 

If you look at the photo of mine you can see just how little you need to remove from the leading edges on both sides.

Doesn’t look pretty as I didn’t have a file so did it with a knife but just keep refitting and test, then shave off some more until you get the pressure right that is needed for your taste.

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I highly recommend this aftermarket detent for the Warthog. It is a push though design, where you have to add extra pressure and the throttles pop into afterburner. A more realistic approach than have to lift up.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/3MJPNE2SV/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent?optionId=63799442&li=related-items

 

Just ordered one. I prefer the original parts untouched. Just in case. I believe this is my first 3D printed thingamajig. I'm so excited! :smilewink:

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Looks awesome. However, I just can't buy a piece of plastic for $13 and then pay $16 shipping for said item, as a matter of principle.

 

To each their own. Works great for me and saved me time and effort.

 

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To echo some of the other posters comments; please add an optional software afterburner detent - reference model is available on the FA18 and it works really well.

 

I find myself constantly switching in and out of afterburner for no reason as my joystick can in no sensible way indicate such. The optional button press (as FA18 reference) simulates/emulates the physical action to activate afterburner in the real aircraft.

 

The same holds true for the AJ37 as well.

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To echo some of the other posters comments; please add an optional software afterburner detent - reference model is available on the FA18 and it works really well.

 

I find myself constantly switching in and out of afterburner for no reason as my joystick can in no sensible way indicate such. The optional button press (as FA18 reference) simulates/emulates the physical action to activate afterburner in the real aircraft.

 

The same holds true for the AJ37 as well.

Is there anything like that now?

I own the F18 and it has a button... works well.

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"Or even just what the hornet has. I've been trying to press this issue for a while. Seems to be ignored"

 

It might be because it's not a Hornet???

 

Anyway...

 

Go to 100% on the CAT(apult) and open throttle to just before AB.

 

go into control settings

 

Note where throttle axis is at.

 

Move forwards to detent (if you have one).

 

Note where throttle axis is at.

 

Adjust "User Curve" so that the AB kicks in at the detent.

 

 

If you don't have a detent... I don't know :).

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I really need the detent button in the hornet, but in the F-14 there is a solid audible 'click' when you come in or out of burner, and those nice analog fuel flow gauges are right there as well as a dead gieveaway.

 

It would still be a nice to have, though, for those situations where you'd just like to make sure you were getting every last erg out of mil power without worrying about lighting the cans.

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I really need the detent button in the hornet, but in the F-14 there is a solid audible 'click' when you come in or out of burner, and those nice analog fuel flow gauges are right there as well as a dead gieveaway.

 

I use these http://www.heatblur.se/F-14Manual/cockpit.html#exhaust-nozzle-position-indicator

What do you see on the fuel flow gauges since they don't count AB flow in?

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Yeah exactly. This button for the Hornet is on/off. You can bind it to the Hotas. When on then your throttle is set to go from idle to full mil-power. When off your throttle is set to go from idle to full-afterburner. I think that's a great solution. Very good for economic fuel consumption. I still miss this.

 

 

Currently use the nozzle dials too but sometimes it does not work 100% and when I check F2 external view the afterburner is mininal active and you can't hear it inside the cockpit nor see it in the nozzle dial. It's just not a perfect solution. I wanna fly at 100% mil-power and not at 97-103%.


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