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Hi guys,

 

I thought it was something wrong with windows 8, but I went back to windows 7 and I tested out my throttle unit and noticed that the boat switch/speedbrake/china hat flicker on and off while the throttle axis are being used or even if you let it stay. This is why I noticed sometimes that white hot and black hot images sometimes flicker on and off. I thought it was something in the software.

 

Does anyone else have this issue? Please suggest what to do?

 

thanks,

 

V

 

 

starts at 15 sec. Notice the other switches flicker on and off.

 

looking for this...

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That looks like a call to Thrustmaster is in order, unless you can still return it where you bought.

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I had something of a similar problem recently. Make sure you check in Options that you have no other conflicts with key bindings. When you re-install it seems you may have all your interface devices linked to the same key. Annoyingly.

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Yup! It can't be reassignments, because as you saw, that was in Target control panel, not DCS. :( Yup! UNfortunately it looks like a wiring error. Darn it. My 30 day policy is over at best buy and they don't sell the warthog anymore (canada best buy). I sent TM an email...hopefully they can sort this out for me. Sucks! I hope shipping won't be to france.

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Yup! It can't be reassignments, because as you saw, that was in Target control panel, not DCS. :( Yup! UNfortunately it looks like a wiring error. Darn it. My 30 day policy is over at best buy and they don't sell the warthog anymore (canada best buy). I sent TM an email...hopefully they can sort this out for me. Sucks! I hope shipping won't be to france.

 

 

ask them to send the replacement part and swap it out yourself

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I sent TM an email...hopefully they can sort this out for me. Sucks! I hope shipping won't be to france.

 

IIRC, folks that have had to ship one back from North America have been sending it somewhere in Canada.

 

Although, when I received a replacement MFD it did come from France.

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I could try to swap it..but I am concerned about messing it up. Its too expensive to screw up.

 

But man...if I need to send this thing back...even in canada...shipping is going to be crazy for that weight.

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Had this problem a few weeks ago. My couser would jump around and things would flicker. It only happened when the right throtle was close to max. What happened was the wires coming out of the bottom of the right throtle were getting pinched. I had to cut and solder a new wire in and used some electrical tape were the ribbin wires bend at the bottom to stiffin. Fixed my issue.

 

Suppose I could have had thrustmaster send me a new wire but I didn't want to wait.

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EMAILED TM: They suggested to open throttle and send them a picture. I wanted to cover myself and make sure wasnt doing anything wrong, so made a video.

 

 

I don't know...still need to test throttle. But don't know if I temporarily fixed it somehow? or it just hasn't happened after I closed the throttle up

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Watched you're video and it looks like the issue I had. Hope the problem went away cross your fingers. If they come back take the base plate off the bottom, hook up the usb and move the wires coming out of the throttles. It should reproduce the problem. It will most likely be the right throttle since the wires get pinched more and that's the side with the switches. Once you get that far you will need TM to send you the ribbon wire. It's fairly easy to take apart and put in. The hardest part is cutting the glue where the wire clips into the board. Hope this helps you out.

 

Would like to note I couldn't find the ribbon wire at any local shop ect, so I just cut the bad section out and soldered in a new single wire. I bent the wire to desired curve and used electrical tape to stiffen the bend so it wouldn't pinch or flex and ware the wire out. I think this is the weakest link to the wort hog. I got my Warthog when the A10C beta came out so it had some use. In time I plan on ordering and new cable and modding the bottom a little bit for a better fix.


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I tried it again yesterday...kinda busy with work, so not too many chances to play DCS world. Thanks for the advice. TM replied to me and said that the issue is solved and it might have been that connector. Thats it I guess.... I just hope that indeed was it. Don't want this to start happening once the warranty runs out.

 

On that note, I need to get a soldering iron. I think that would be very useful.

 

DId u take any pics or anything of your modding?

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At least if it comes up again you have a history of this issue with TM.

 

Mine is still working fine, and out of warranty now, but I am not looking forward to the inevitable day when I am going to have to tear it open for something.

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Man! I tell you... u can probably see how careful I was when I was opening my throttle. I did not want to scratch it not to mention rip any cables. However, I was glad to witness the extremely professional and quality construction and craftsmanship put into this product. :) Lets hope the TM warthog can give the CH products a run for its money on longevity.

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  • 6 months later...

Just an update on this issue if anyone has a similar problem...

 

The flickering buttons came back with a vengeance.

 

http://youtu.be/dDkw5CcvYoo

 

Anyways... contacted thrustmaster, sent in my throttle to montreal centre. it cost around 22$ + box + tape. (ridiculous that canada post don't let you use their shipping tape anymore). A week later, yesterday, got back my throttle. All looks well and the issue is gone. My china hat and boat switch work fine now.

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  • 2 years later...

flickering inputs solved with soldering

 

I've occasionally had the "flickering inputs" problem, especially on the right throttle axis and boat switch. This time it became too bothering in A-10C because I "china hat forward-long" didn't work correctly.

 

So I opened the base again. I knew that that the blue wire on the ribbon cable was a bit dented, but I always thought that it was not broken.

 

This time I cut away the damaged part and soldered some new wire. No more flickering :)

 

I'm no electrician, but I believe that the blue wire is the ground. Buttons worked even when the wire was cut, but they flickered. You know how it is: having problems with hardware is one thing, but if you don't know what causes the problems then you go nuts :) So I was quite happy to see immediate effect with the new wire.

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  • 2 years later...

I had a similar issue with my joystick button. I took it apart and saw that one wire was barely connected. They really have shoddy wiring considering the price of the TMWH. Anyway, I rewired it and it was fine after that. So you should CLOSELY inspect every cable and connection. It could be a cold solder joint so check that. Take a wooden chopstick and gently tap on the solder joints. If you have a cold solder joint issue, tapping on it will find it.

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conflicting inputs

 

I too am having these problems. i push china hat forward and speed brake operates. i looked in the key bindings to see what was going on and it seems the speed brake , boat s/w and china hat were sending crossed signals and to top it all the left throttle has a mind of it's own. i have been in touch with Thrustmaster but they want

Picture of invoice

Picture of serial number on the base of the device.

Full name

Full shipping address

Phone number

All that is ok but i no longer have the invoice and i bought it second hand from e-bay years ago. I too agree that the quality of the internal components are 'Nasty' , i'm thinking of getting the new throttles from VKB.

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did you resolve your problem?

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I too am having these problems. i push china hat forward and speed brake operates. i looked in the key bindings to see what was going on and it seems the speed brake , boat s/w and china hat were sending crossed signals and to top it all the left throttle has a mind of it's own. i have been in touch with Thrustmaster but they want

Picture of invoice

Picture of serial number on the base of the device.

Full name

Full shipping address

Phone number

All that is ok but i no longer have the invoice and i bought it second hand from e-bay years ago. I too agree that the quality of the internal components are 'Nasty' , i'm thinking of getting the new throttles from VKB.

 

You may be in for quite a wait on those throttlesn from VKB.

Virpil has one available for pre-order with July shipping.

https://virpil-controls.by/en/shop/vpc-mongoost-50-throttle-vpc


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did you resolve your problem?

 

well sort of. been in touch with Thrustmaster and they have offered me a 'paid repair process'

It will cost 115 euros + post and take two weeks (give or take).

so looks like i'll have to buy a cheap throttle from E-bay as I cannot go that long without my DCS Fix. lol

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at least they offer to repair it

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