Samoht Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 We've been getting multiple crashes and UI freezes per day on the Aerobatics Online Caucasus server ever since the latest OpenBeta update. As other admins have pointed out, 2.5.0 was not doing this, but 2.5.1 is crashing a lot. Unfortunately, we don't get any crash logs when the entire process freezes; however, an outright crash will generate a dump file. A dump file is attached. We're powering through keeping and OpenBeta server up to hopefully provide some good data you can use for making the next patch better. In the mean time, I spun up a second AO Caucasus server on DCS World release. They're running pretty much the same mission, and the computers hosting have the exact same specs. It might make for a good comparison. As a side note, aircraft seem to "hop" now when flying in close formation. It's not always apparent when observing someone far away, but in close proximity (less than six feet) the judder makes things nearly unplayable. It's not the world, just the other aircraft. We did not see this when flying on a small mission and it's not always present on AO either. I also have not seen any significant reduction with mission load-in time when using a large preload radius, which is necessary to cache models and avoid spawn related lag spikes.dcs.log-20180428-033349.zip Aerobatics Online Server Admin Gaming Rig: i7 7700k @ 4.6, Nvidia GTX-1080Ti, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SDD. Hardware: TM Warthog w/ 10cm extension, TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, Obutto r3volution pit, Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilem84 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Thanks Samoth. Very difficult to play online right crash happen almost every 20-30 min today! Is it true that the Harrier is a trouble maker online ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] BOOMerCH - virtual Swiss Air Force pilot and real Swiss Air Force soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The same thing is happening on our server UI freezes and its game over METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humptydumpty Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Hi Samo, Since 2.5.1 for me it's better, AO seems to be running well for me. What i felt when your server resets on it's scheduled time it does it multiple times in a few minutes. Did notice freezing of the other users and then it comes back to normal. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Attitude Power Trim Power Attitude Trim Wing Commander SWAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslechta Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Thanks Samoht. Here's the post I first reported 2.5.1 issues on with the AO server in case others would like to research...... https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=207139 Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 how is the crashing going for you guys ? METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoht Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Still having on average 9 crashes per day. When it's running, it's pretty unplayable (for formation flying). It's been a long time since the server has been this empty for this long. I'm continuing to reduce mission assets, but there doesn't seem to be any significant change with stability. Aerobatics Online Server Admin Gaming Rig: i7 7700k @ 4.6, Nvidia GTX-1080Ti, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SDD. Hardware: TM Warthog w/ 10cm extension, TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, Obutto r3volution pit, Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) is a new player spawning still the last message before server died? Edited May 4, 2018 by Johnny_Rico 1.1 METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslechta Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Hey Samoht, I realize the AO mission is pretty complex but after some updates to Beta you can get better performance from building out the mission from scratch. Sometimes new changes just don't work well with missions created on previous versions. We had to do this several times in the past back in the VA days. It was a lot of work but the mission would start running better when constructed on the newest version of DCS. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovivan Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 When (or if ever) DCS is stabilized and optimised back to levels of 1.5.8 (I'm quickly losing hope for that though), can I request that AO missions get one airfield with challenging conditions like Mozdok was in the VA days? Under that I mean rain, poor visibility, heavy crosswinds and so on? Right now flying there is a bit... boring. It's perfect weather everywhere, daylight all day and unless I want to do the racing I get bored within some 10 minutes of joining (if I don't get disconnected or ctd-ed that is). Some challenge would be very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoht Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Rico: Surprisingly, we're not really seeing the spawn error that you've been getting. If it has happened, it's infrequent enough that I don't notice. I've pulled the Harrier from our mission and doing so has drastically helped with warping issues. I've done several long flights when the server is full and not had any warps. Crashes are still happening though. Mainly on initial start. The DCS process crashes and then hangs when first loading. My watchdog script will get it eventually, but it delays server availability after scheduled restarts. Slick: I rebuild the AO mission from scratch about once a year, but I haven't since 2.5 came out. With every new update, at minimum I save the mission in the new version and fix the airport inventories, but redoing Caucasus from the ground up is about three days of work. I should probably do it again for 2.5, but I'll wait for this current version to migrate to stable before undertaking that. Tovivan: The mission editor is extremely unfriendly with customizing weather and getting it where you want it. It's pretty much random chance that you get something that works. In our case, I need to make sure that the winds are low enough at spawn airports but challenging enough at other distant airports. When we have racing going on, I also don't want the moutain courses to be covered in clouds. It's almost impossible to get all the weather to cooperate in all locations that matter. That being said, we need to come up with some new activities and challenges. Doing more with the weather is high on my list. This is assuming that the weather bugs that got introduced with 2.2 have been sorted out. I haven't checked. Aerobatics Online Server Admin Gaming Rig: i7 7700k @ 4.6, Nvidia GTX-1080Ti, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SDD. Hardware: TM Warthog w/ 10cm extension, TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, Obutto r3volution pit, Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Question: Do you try and prevent people connecting to the server until the MP mission has fully loaded? (Slot selection list is on screen) Because I used to get crashes when people tried to connect while the server was loading up the mission, until that is I wrote a script to stop that happening Oh and we had to update our mission, due to 2.5 and the parking slots changing METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoht Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Yeah, I noticed the parking spaces all adjusted. I spotted that one in the first 2.5.0 OpenBeta and got that sorted out. We don't guard against people connecting on load, but then again, it's never been an issue for us (I don't know why, since it obviously is a problem for others). The crashes we're getting on load don't seem to be related at all to people connecting. We're seeing this: 2018-05-08 02:08:13.169 INFO EDCORE: C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\World.dll 2018-05-08 02:08:13.169 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 5A120700 00:00000000 2018-05-08 02:08:13.172 INFO EDCORE: 00000000 00000000 0000:00000000 2018-05-08 02:08:13.173 INFO EDCORE: 5A120700 6716DF10 0000:00000000 C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\World.dll 2018-05-08 02:08:13.174 INFO EDCORE: 58F50848 6716E1E0 0000:00000000 C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin\AsyncNet.dll It'll rarely load clean without a crash. Usually it's once. Sometimes it's twice. The process becomes non-responsive and the external watchdog will kill DCS and restart it after a few minutes. Aerobatics Online Server Admin Gaming Rig: i7 7700k @ 4.6, Nvidia GTX-1080Ti, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe SDD. Hardware: TM Warthog w/ 10cm extension, TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, Obutto r3volution pit, Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 i just got another crash (mission running for a while) Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: DCS.exe Application Version: 2.5.1.16543 Application Timestamp: 5adf71a0 Fault Module Name: DCS.exe Fault Module Version: 2.5.1.16543 Fault Module Timestamp: 5adf71a0 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00000000006df0a7 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.272.7 Locale ID: 2057 Additional Information 1: b14b Additional Information 2: b14bc36e280d5dc57b8831aa747e8580 Additional Information 3: 9adb Additional Information 4: 9adbb216243e7cb755dca8669167b844 METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 another crash 2018-05-17 22:30:49.256 WARNING LOG: 1 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2018-05-17 22:30:49.256 INFO NET: client[2] is ready to start 2018-05-17 22:30:49.256 INFO NET: spawning client[2] on spawn a client again METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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