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I find myself unable to fly the Dora without eventually destroying the engine, despite being extremely conservative. Even the slightest touch of MW-50 destroys my engine within 2-3 minutes despite decent cool. I've even found myself destroying my engine in level flight with good cooling. I've only truly been shot down once but I've destroyed my engine countless times and each of those times I've tried to be more conservative on my engine management than the other.

 

From my knowledge MW-50 provides cooling so I should in theory be better off flying with it than without it. Also on top of that I've got 40 minutes worth of MW-50 and I'm permitted to use MW-50 in 10 minutes intervals. So this engine is supposedly capable of handling 40 minutes worth of maximum power per sortie and I'm sure it was capable of doing this for multiple sorties, not just one. However this is not the case for me at least. Also, yes I warm up my engine before take off.

 

Someone please enlighten me, because I am royally confused.

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It's a known bug.. for quite some while.. :(

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After Flying two sorties Dora...since dez 2016..

 

 

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Use MW50 only when absolutely necessary and only if you reached operating temperature (around 90° Oil and water) and you will be fine for the most part. This way you can fly at full throttle until the tank is empty, in most cases.

 

Yes, it means to renounce 300 horsepowers for 99% of the time, too which you should have access for around 30 minutes of flight, according to all manuals. Sadly we already waited more than 2 years for a fix, so don't hold your breath, as it is apparently not significant enough to be looked at.

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Strange, I flew the Dora for around 30 hours on burning skies server since december.

Never had engine troubles.

 

Same here.

 

I switch on the MW-50 during start-up and leave it on - the only time I've blown the engine was while manually closing the radiator during speed trials.

 

Not saying there isn't a problem but I've never encountered it.

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the cooling model on all warbirds is getting tweaked

 

That's an interesting tidbit, we'll see what they come up with. FWIW, I haven't blown the engine yet either, but then, I'm a groundpounder and as such, usually tend not to stress the engine overmuch.

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That's an interesting tidbit, we'll see what they come up with. FWIW, I haven't blown the engine yet either, but then, I'm a groundpounder and as such, usually tend not to stress the engine overmuch.

 

 

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Well, speak of the Devil - the Dora's engine just seized on me during MP.

 

No idea why - I'm really conservative with my engine. I had two sorties punctuated by a hot rearm & refuel. Total MW-50 time must have been less than a minute. Cruising back to base during the second sortie the engine just popped. I think I saw the coolant temperature gauge off-scale to the right as I ditched the plane but I don't know whether the needle was there prior to the engine stopping or only happened when it blew.

 

I have the track but it's 90mins or so and accelerating time wrecks it. When I get time I'll try 'taking control' during the second sortie and see if I can capture the engine failure on video.

 

edit: well, scratch that idea. The track replay is perfect right up until I take off for the second sortie, and then within a minute I plow into the deck. And anyway you can't take control during an MP track....:doh:


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It does seem to be based on how hard you push the engine, I also dont have a lot of luck breaking the engine consistently, but as I said above, the cooling model on all warbirds is getting tweaked and could help.

 

how is it possible not to break the doras engine^^ just try and use the MW-50 boost for 3 x 10 minutes with 5 minute breaks in between and its gonna blow up 100 % of the time.

 

its nice to hear that its beeing looked at! would be a dream come true if it gets a fix:)

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AI uses 99% rpm and corner v around 140 to 180 kts in the tracks I've watched. In the pony I stick with full throttle 60 inches and play with the rpms between 27 and 30k rpms. throttle back in dives, even more so now. Nice and easy. Let the engine bark but stay away from the idle horn. Scissors work a little better this way too.

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  • 3 months later...
Here's an engine failure in action.

 

 

Flight time appx. 30 mins. MW-50 under 90 seconds total (non-contiguous).

 

If the failures are temperature-based then the gauges aren't showing it.

 

its only gage for coolant temp not for vital parts of the engine

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Will the WW2 engine issues be fixed when the FW 190A8 or P 47D is released? I assume the new aircraft will have improved engine temp mechanics?
IIRC there are a new engine temps management model on the works for all of the WWII stuff. But most people here usually feature really short term memory :huh: .

 

 

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Stupid question: Do you guys open fully the cowl flaps?

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Stupid question: Do you guys open fully the cowl flaps?
I've done in times, but it's better to leave it alone as once you open it manually it stops working automatically and it can't be worst for temps indeed.

 

 

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I've done in times, but it's better to leave it alone as once you open it manually it stops working automatically and it can't be worst for temps indeed.

 

 

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That's not true...

 

 

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That's not true...
I didn't say you can't go back to automatic, just that manual management is worst in the end, even though it can be used if desired.

 

 

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problem in dora is that oil cooler uses coolant for heat exchange. then in certain situation 100 celcius coolant is not enough to cool oil than oil starts climbing towards redline in that situation you have to open cowl flaps manualy to cool oil via lowering coolant temp. idont know if this actual designe fault or is it dcs cooling mechanics behind that.


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  • 3 months later...
So do we know if the FW190D9 has been dixed? If so, how do you fly it without blowing engine? 10mins od MW50 then 5 or ten minutes to cool then repeat until no fuel left?

 

What i noticed, Oil temp is no longer shooting sky high after engaging mw50, right now oil temp shoots up but needle is slowing way down near red line.

10min WEP than at least 10 min below continous power


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