JF-17 Thunder Discussions

Can you explain what Mode 1-3 represent in the JF-17? From the wikipedia definition, you'd expect Mode 1-3 to come back as a mismatch for lots of friendlies because mode 1 is the mission type and other friendlies might be on a different mission, and mode 2 is the code for your tail number which should be unique, and mode 3 is assigned by the ground controller / is used to provide altitude information.

 

Or is there a different definition in the JF-17?

The JF-17 pretty much uses the NATO definition. So IRL Mode 2/3 is unique to each aircraft, but in DCS it's hard to assign a unique code to each aircraft and list them in the briefing or somewhere else, so we'll let you decide/change your own code. Mode 1 can be team id, dependent on usage. Mode 6 is an updated version of Mode 4.

Anyways we'll only implement the logic. How the codes are being used is up to the players.

BTW Mode C provides altitude information. Mode 3 response is just a 4-digit code.

Holy crap

Guys, I had no idea you were doing this until yesterday, when I saw a video on YouTube. This thing looks great! And it’s about time a non western multi role fighter came out. It looks to be nearing EA, and I think I’m gonna pass on the Lawn dart, and wait for this. Thanks for bringing something different to DCS, I hope it flies as good as it looks. I’m gonna enjoy playing the “bad guy” again.

Guys, I had no idea you were doing this until yesterday, when I saw a video on YouTube. This thing looks great! And it’s about time a non western multi role fighter came out. It looks to be nearing EA, and I think I’m gonna pass on the Lawn dart, and wait for this. Thanks for bringing something different to DCS, I hope it flies as good as it looks. I’m gonna enjoy playing the “bad guy” again.

gonna be awesome!

gonna be awesome!

Totally agree. Deka Ironworks really has a pretty awesome module in the pipeline that I didn't expect to be such a fantastic 4th gen plane. Cannot wait! :thumbup:

Here's hope that we will see a few more surprise fighters from them in the future!

Anyone know the JF-17 has an internal compartment for travel? Sure there is nothing of use we could ferry, but interesting. Found out from this blog post

http://pafwallpapers.com/blog/2012/03/jf-17_thunder_fuselage/

The part about air flowing around the luggage has gotta be made up, the inlets curve inward well before it it seeems

Anyone know the JF-17 has an internal compartment for travel? Sure there is nothing of use we could ferry, but interesting. Found out from this blog post

http://pafwallpapers.com/blog/2012/03/jf-17_thunder_fuselage/

 

The part about air flowing around the luggage has gotta be made up, the inlets curve inward well before it it seeems

Unused gun ammo compartment ? (empty fro travel)

It's just above the rear of the gun.

Or where are the gun ammo ?

I don’t know where the shells go, but it would certainly make sense

Here's a close up of the area in question. The door just below/nearby is definitely a pressurized refueling receptacle so I wouldn't count on it being a spent brass storage compartment.

Hard to make out just exactly what it is but my guess is it's a small crew provision for bags when they go off station rather than lugging around travel pods on the wings. You can check out the rest of it up close here. http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason5/jf-17/

Thanks for the close up. It looks like it's panel labelled "1223-3".

I saw this kind of things on other fighters, like Mirage 2000N. The crew would put bags in empty space on the spin of the aircraft. On the later Mirage 2000D they would be screwed since there ares some top firing flare launchers. :D

I wouldn't call that "provision for bag", at least it probably isn't by design :smilewink:

Anyway it's really close to the gun, and just below 1223-3 panel we can see a deformation for what could be a shell feeding ramp.

I don't know how the gun is fed on this plane, it would be interesting to have pictures of ground crew servicing the gun.

With the release of F-16C, this place has gone quiet again. I do hope JF-17 module becomes more successful on sales since DIS is the company who I am relying on to provide us with quality level Red side jets.

I do hope JF-17 module becomes more successful on sales since DIS is the company who I am relying on to provide us with quality level Red side jets.

+1

What happen if I push the self-destruction button?

It deletes computer data

It clears your browser history, just in case...

It clears your browser history, just in case...

Sends your browser history to the chinese government.

Hence "self destruct".

@Uboats, is it possible to get those panel pictures in high rez and without button description?

I'll be making a simpit of you amazing module :)

Keep up the great work,

Cheers!

@Uboats, is it possible to get those panel pictures in high rez and without button description?

I'll be making a simpit of you amazing module :)

 

Keep up the great work,

Cheers!

+1

will provide an HD version later

Yes

 

 

GB-6 can carry many types of warhead/submunition,

 

we will provide the terminal-sensing-ammunition and/or high explosive warhead fisrt,

for better game play experience :)

 

 

terminal-sensing-ammunition version for attacking tanks,

 

high explosive version for attacking buildings

So when I first read this I thought terminal sensing meant IR scene matching like JSOW-C but reading it again it was pointed out it’s similar to BLU-108 of CBU-105. Got really excited about the impending digital destruction so started looking up stuff about it.

It was said we’ll get terminal sensing and HE first, but not what comes second..:music_whistling:

I don’t think we currently have any FAE(Fuel Air Explosive) weapons in DCS?

will provide an HD version later

I want a HD version of your signature pic :) Requested it long ago :P

Dodged a bullet by not pre-ordering the F-16. Now I have all my money saved for this magnificant jet. Really hoping for this month release.

Dodged a bullet by not pre-ordering the F-16. Now I have all my money saved for this magnificant jet. Really hoping for this month release.

Not an official response, but I've heard rumors of ED's QA program (I think F-14, could be wrong) taking just around a month provided nothing goes wrong. Deka sent it off to ED the 13th (last sunday). So while October is looking slim, we all should be flying it relatively soon.

Only side note is, if there is some issue that does come up, it will take an undetermined amount of time longer. So its not too far away, but theres no telling just yet exactly how "far" that is.

The time required for jf17qa can refer to F-14, which took about one month. So it would be more appropriate to wait until November 13 to discuss when to release. Their work, testing and development are carried out at the same time to ensure that there are no major problems. At the same time, the relevant personnel responsible for modeling recovered and discharged, and the progress of the model was also very smooth. F16c passed QA smoothly with a very low degree of completion (even the lack of some basic things). For jf17, which has almost all functions completed, it can't pass QA?! Then they must be talking nonsense!

More like the F-16C didn't take much time because there was very little to test, while the JF-17 has a lot of features that needs to be tested.

Red = Mode 1-3 got reply but code mismatch.

Yellow = no response (including Mode 6 challenge failed)

Green = code match or Mode 6 challenge passed

So would the below mock up be accurate?