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Old 01-31-2019, 07:59 PM   #1
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I was comparing random models on the EVGA website when I stumbled on this. Now, this is the least expensive 2080 Ti on the EVGA site, but it says it's "Not VR ready."

Does this mean it's not capable at all? Or does this mean there would be extra steps involved?

I'm still toying with parts for my build (late February!) and am dipping my toes in 2080 Ti territory. Just seeing what's out there.

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Old 01-31-2019, 08:45 PM   #2
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Well, reading the individual card description shows it is VR ready. I'm confused, but that happens easily lol.
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:13 AM   #3
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I'd call them up. EVGA customer service is the best in the business. I think that's most likely a typo.. as afaik VR functionality is dependent on connectivity and it has all the current connections and the USB-C that no headset is using yet.

It might not as perform quite as well as the other versions due to the lower boost clock, and there probably won't be much headroom for overclocking if at all with a black edition. But I don't see anything that would stop it from powering a VR headset. The difference in boost clock is only going to amount to between 5-10 fps different from stock clocks on a model with a 1650Mhz boost if even that much. The gpu's tend to boost quite a bit higher than their advertised speeds when gaming anyway. Running my XC Ultra at 1754 boost clock actually nets me like 2020-2070Mhz boost. At 1650 I'm between 1920-1950Mhz
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:24 PM   #4
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I'd call them up. EVGA customer service is the best in the business. I think that's most likely a typo.. as afaik VR functionality is dependent on connectivity and it has all the current connections and the USB-C that no headset is using yet.

It might not as perform quite as well as the other versions due to the lower boost clock, and there probably won't be much headroom for overclocking if at all with a black edition. But I don't see anything that would stop it from powering a VR headset. The difference in boost clock is only going to amount to between 5-10 fps different from stock clocks on a model with a 1650Mhz boost if even that much. The gpu's tend to boost quite a bit higher than their advertised speeds when gaming anyway. Running my XC Ultra at 1754 boost clock actually nets me like 2020-2070Mhz boost. At 1650 I'm between 1920-1950Mhz
Interesting, thanks Headwarp!

It's hard enough deciding if I should stay with a 2080, or make the jump into 2080 Ti territory. If I do that, I certainly don't want a card that would be mediocre. I figured there was a reason for that lower price, haha. Gah, I hate making decisions like this.
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Interesting, thanks Headwarp!

It's hard enough deciding if I should stay with a 2080, or make the jump into 2080 Ti territory. If I do that, I certainly don't want a card that would be mediocre. I figured there was a reason for that lower price, haha. Gah, I hate making decisions like this.
Yes, there is no bullshit plastic and publicity on this card. There is a name for this kind of product, (the entry level card). They grab you with the low price, they convince you that you can get a 2080Ti, then they show you that this card is not enough (it's a Ford Mustang without mag and spoiler), you need a better 2080Ti. And finally, you accept to pay the big price for the same card with a dust of performance increase.

You are the fish, not the fisherman. Seriously!
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Old 02-02-2019, 01:14 AM   #6
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The gpu's tend to boost quite a bit higher than their advertised speeds when gaming anyway. Running my XC Ultra at 1754 boost clock actually nets me like 2020-2070Mhz boost. At 1650 I'm between 1920-1950Mhz
That's right about where I'm getting mine now that they are under water. Can't seem to get them past 2085 though without crashing 3Dmark. I used Thermal Grizzly and Fujipoly TIM as well. Don't think it was worth the expense or effort. It runs whisper quiet though even when benchmarking. The loop took way longer to build than planned as well. Kept changing my mind and ordering new fittings.

I'm pretty sure the lower cost black edition is just as Headwarp says. They are binned lower, a lower grade if you will. As the fabrication processes mature the chips tend to get a little faster. I'd really like to see some specific benchmarks for one of those cards. Might be the best bang for buck performance wise????
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Which 2080 Ti or clock level would you suggest I look at? Are the gains in DCS worth it versus a 2080?
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:56 AM   #8
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It might not as perform quite as well as the other versions due to the lower boost clock, and there probably won't be much headroom for overclocking if at all with a black edition. But I don't see anything that would stop it from powering a VR headset. The difference in boost clock is only going to amount to between 5-10 fps different from stock clocks on a model with a 1650Mhz boost if even that much. The gpu's tend to boost quite a bit higher than their advertised speeds when gaming anyway. Running my XC Ultra at 1754 boost clock actually nets me like 2020-2070Mhz boost. At 1650 I'm between 1920-1950Mhz
Texture fill rate is only 5% more, i expected the same for the FPS. 5% on 60 FPS is only 3 FPS. $200 for 3 FPS better
They have design the chip using 1545Mhz as the reference frequency, it can't be mediocre.

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Which 2080 Ti or clock level would you suggest I look at? Are the gains in DCS worth it versus a 2080?
If you can afford a 2080Ti, go for it. A 2080 Ti is a 2080 Ti, even the slowest is better than a 2080.
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:16 AM   #10
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the 980Ti I upgraded from was a Black Edition. Thing didn't like being overclocked even +10Mhz, but other than that the GPU did it's job and offered 980Ti performance.

1545 mhz is the stock speed of the non founders edition 2080Ti from nvidia.

I will say @4.9ghz on my 8700k, I'm right on the edge of a CPU bottleneck with my 2080Ti in both VR and my 3440x1440 monitor in DCS, but in VR that's less important as for the time being, I'm limited to 45 fps with motion reprojection on anyway.

2080Ti is the fastest GPU on the market right now and likely to last longer before you consider your next upgrade.

If people aren't going to starve because of your decision to buy one, I don't see the harm in it But you might want a 4k monitor to go with it. =x or 3440x1440 seems to be juuuuust right, maybe perfect if i were to achieve a 5.2+GHz overclock of my cpu.
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