rogonaut Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 please do work on the refraction being moddeled, those bars take up alot of the windscreen and approx 1/4 of the revi. that would be a dream come true and a historical moment in flight sim aviation:pilotfly::thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marduk879 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) what do you mean with refraction in this case? Edited June 7, 2019 by twistking My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Refraction of the armored glass infront of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Refraction of the armored glass infront of you. Ok, i think i understand now. Thanks. I wonder if this could be "faked" by just changing the geometry of the a-pillar, making it thinner. Should work for 2D, but could it look weird in VR... ? My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran66 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Ok what is wrong? Not the 3D Model, the not simulate refraction! What can the devs do? make the frame bottom thinner make the Revi higher it is not historically correct but it is a Compromise. German WW2 Radio calls Mod: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2161798/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunctator Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 +1 "The bar", the holy grail of Fw 190 simulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 making the frame smaller seems like a very straightforward solution. it should also play well with VR... My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran66 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) here a Soviet Test of captured JG 54 Fw 190A-4 Video show 5:45 min ok it is a A4 not A8 Edited June 7, 2019 by Veteran66 German WW2 Radio calls Mod: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2161798/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 i would also go for a workaround for sure if actual refraction is not possible. lets all hope cause that bar is massive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted June 7, 2019 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2019 "Oh show me the way to the next Anton's bar"... Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 "Oh, don't ask why"... :) My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 "Oh show me the way to the next Anton's bar"...:lol: Completely unexpected. Definitely, should modelling refraction be an unbearable toll in terms of performance (which I don't know with current game engine, might be possible?), a compromise like in Dora should be taken into account. The in-famous bar takes half the Revi… it's an annoyingly huge thing in the middle of your sight. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrmlZ Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 making the frame smaller seems like a very straightforward solution. I would also hope for a solution in that direction. But i dont think its that straightforward. Making the Bar smaller would include raising the position of the whole cockpit, at least the internal model of it. The outer Armor glass ends right at the cowlin. So making the glass thinner alone wont be enough, you would still have the engine cowling in the way. https://www.youtube.com/user/GrmlZGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I would also hope for a solution in that direction. But i dont think its that straightforward. Making the Bar smaller would include raising the position of the whole cockpit, at least the internal model of it. The outer Armor glass ends right at the cowlin. So making the glass thinner alone wont be enough, you would still have the engine cowling in the way. are you sure though? on the pictures i found it looked like there were at least a few centimeters metal frame raising from the cowling. if you could see through this, it would maybe mitigate the problem a little bit. adjusting the whole model - and by this distorting it, since the view to the side would have to stay the same - seems to come with it's own problems. it would look totally wrong if you were looking around and getting a glimpse of the distorted section. i could think of a another way of having the whole model with cowling and another instance with only a lowered cowling and then switching between the two. i've sen things like this in other engines (unreal engine f.e.) without needing a second camera, so without any performance hit. (you basically swap geometry, depending on which "portal" you look through). there is a contemporal story-driven psychological mistery game in unreal engine that uses this portals quite a lot for puzzles. My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrmlZ Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I guess the best tradeoff would be to make the glass and frame thinner on the internal model to reduce the bars on the sides and mount the gunsight a bit higher so you can look above the lower bar. https://www.youtube.com/user/GrmlZGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG13Wulf Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 +1 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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