DaveRindner Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 ATC fails to specify, which Nellis runway is departure and which is arrival or recovery. 21R or 21L I am guessing that departure runway in Nellis, regardless of weather, is 21 L, Recovery is 21R due to landing threshold lights on 21R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 In real life, Nellis uses both runways for departures and recoveries. There's rarely any obvious reason as observed from off base. They will have visiting units land on 21R despite the fact their parking is in the revetments and they will land Nellis-based units land on the left despite their parking being on the main ramp. The only obvious thing they do at Nellis is that they will launch aircraft carrying live ordinance on the 21s and away from the city even if it means a slight tailwind. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Look for the blue and white airport icon on the F10 map. It will be in the center of the active runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 DCS “ATC” doesn’t currently support multiple runways at airfields. If you’re curious about how it works in real life you can read the Nellis 11-250 available below. http://www.476vfightergroup.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=424 In short, in reality armed aircraft takeoff from 03L/R and most landings are on 21L/R, however there are some variations due to weather and time of day. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRindner Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 That describes airfield information. It does not tell you, which is the active runway for departure and arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRindner Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 OK, the answer appears to be that 21L is arrival, and 03L is departure. In DCS NTTR anyways. Field chart in kneeboard describes ILS for 21L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 That describes airfield information. It does not tell you, which is the active runway for departure and arrival. ATC (such as it is) will tell you which runway to taxi to. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRindner Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 No ATC willl not. It will tell you a runway azimuth designation, 03 or 21, but not R or L. "Clear To taxi to runway 03" It should tell you "Clear to taxi to runway 03 RIGHT", or ".....03 LEFT." Otherwise it is up to the player to figure out. Usually by observing where other aircraft or your AI wingman depart and land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRindner Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Thank you. I think there is also a safety factor. Having armed aircraft with either inert or live ordinance and bellies full of fuel, depart to over build up areas, is playing the odds. Sooner or later accident will happen. USN and USMC , not in Nellis, had F/A-18 from West Coast conversion fleet replenishment squadrons auger into SoCal suburbia. So, at Nellis they depart along 030 azimuth , and climb over High Desert. The runways are so long even a decent tailwind would be within safety limits of large types. B-1Bs, B-2(though I never saw one there), B-52, E-3A, C-17, C-130, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 No ATC willl not. It will tell you a runway azimuth designation, 03 or 21, but not R or L. "Clear To taxi to runway 03" It should tell you "Clear to taxi to runway 03 RIGHT", or ".....03 LEFT." Otherwise it is up to the player to figure out. Usually by observing where other aircraft or your AI wingman depart and land. It absolutely is correct because it does at Nellis what it does at every base. The only difference is that Nellis has two runways which ATC in DCS totally disregards. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 No ATC willl not. It will tell you a runway azimuth designation, 03 or 21, but not R or L. "Clear To taxi to runway 03" It should tell you "Clear to taxi to runway 03 RIGHT", or ".....03 LEFT." Otherwise it is up to the player to figure out. Usually by observing where other aircraft or your AI wingman depart and land. You're missing the fact that every airbase in DCS has only 1 runway. It may look like more than one but those are just concrete with some paint on them. There's only one runway (up to both directions). Look for the airbase icon. Whatever it's on is the runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 And Nellis does launch aircraft off both 21L and 21R. I shot this a couple years ago down on Cheyenne Blvd: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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