3 way switches?

Hi there,

Don't know if this might be a bug or not, so I'm asking here just in case it's me being dumb (as it happened a few times before).

Are the "3 way switches" working as they should? I mean, there are a couple bindings that I think are supposed to work with the warthog throttle, like:

Speed Brake switch - RETRACT/OFF: this one works as expected; I mapped it to the fwd position of the warthog speek brake. So as long as the button is "pressed" the aibrake retracts, and if I return the speed brake to the middle position (no button pressed) the airbrake simply stops wherever it is.

Exterior Lights Switch - ON/OFF: this one I assumed was the same, and mapped it to the warthog exterior lights switch fwd. But it simply works as a regular button; meaning it will toggle exterior lights every time I move it fwd, instead of keeping the lights on until I return it to the middle position. It's not a big deal, since I ended up binding the lights on and lights off to fwd/aft...but it sounds like it's not right:

Master Arm Switch - ARM/SAFE: this one is the same; I tried to bind it to any of the warthog's switches, asuming I'd go ARM when the switch is fwd (button pressed) and back to SAFE when siwtching it aft (no button press). But again, it just works as a regular toggle, so I need to flick the switch twice if I want to go from ARM to SAFE or vice-versa.

Any hints?

Most buttons on the warthog throttle actually only have 1 button. Putting a switch up pushes a button and putting it down releases it. Until they add A-10 kind of hotas support to the module you have to do it manually from the joystick config file. Basically it makes a keybind that does 1 thing when you push a button, and another thing when you release it. Heres some examples of mine.

Also required if you want to bind catapult launch "U" button to a joystick. And theres also 2 commands to hold finger lift up all the time.

3 way switches?

I know; that’s why I assumed those bindingd would work (the speed brake does).

I’m refereing to the bindingd that specifically mention 2 states, like “Master Arm Switch - ARM/SAFE”. There are other simple bindings like “Master Arm Switch - ARM”. So I assumed the first one was meant to be used with warthog-like switches (ARM/SAFE would set master arm on as long as the button is pressed).

2 and 3 pos switches

Hi,

For my Warthog throttle and USB GPwiz40 based panels I am attempting to program some additional 2 and 3 position bindings not covered by the initial default.lau for the hornet.

I can cut and paste the master arm switch to be up is armed and off is safe, however when trying the same for landing gear, it doesn't seem to do the same thing.

Could anyone please fell in the blanks in my knowledge and code possibly.

Note, I have simply cut and pasted code from within the default.lua for the hornet where I thought it would work... one does work, the other does not.

Many thanks

Edit 1.

figured out how to get undercarriage working now, not sure of the efficiency of my code hacks ???

switch support

Also for those that have not seen it, scroll down to the

special for joystick

bindings section in the controls.

ED has awesomely started the hotas and cockpit support already for us.

You’re right. There’s a “Special for Joystick” section with quite a lot of switches for warthog-like mappings that are working just fine (like the “Probe Control Switch - EXTEND/RETRACT” or the “Speed Brake Switch - EXTEND/RETRACT”).

But unfortunately, the “Master Arm Switch - ARM/SAFE” it’s not there. I think it will eventually be as ED continues with the development; it seems it’s just been misplaced and is still not working correctly.

I hope that is the case...

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Just cut and paste my master arm and landing gear code above into your default.lua back it up first. I then bind the rearmost switches on my warthog throtle to gear and master. Which is the same as 2hat i have done for harrier. Works great

Using the same general concept as posted above, I'm able to make toggle switches for several things including Master ARM/Safe, ALT Baro/RDR, Antiskid on/off, Ext lights, Formation/Position lights, etc for my Warthog throttle. Yes, it's pretty much the same as how you would do it for the Harrier.

The only thing that works by default for me is the 3-way Flap switch. Not sure why the 2-way switches are not fully implemented by ED, it is fairly simple to do.

Hi guys. Sorry to revive a two year old thread but I think it might be better than creating a new one. I've finally decided to tackle this problem with my Warthog HOTAS and I was wondering what's the easiest way of going about it (making 2 and 3 way switches work the way they should).

Thanks!

"The way they should" is the tricky bit. Are you using dual pole or a true three pole switch?

If three pole set up the .lua with individual controls for each position. Otherwise use on/off combinations.

I don't think I made a ton of sense there, but being more specific runs into the potential of overstating the obvious.

"The way they should" is the tricky bit. Are you using dual pole or a true three pole switch?

 

 

If three pole set up the .lua with individual controls for each position. Otherwise use on/off combinations.

 

 

I don't think I made a ton of sense there, but being more specific runs into the potential of overstating the obvious.

Thanks for the quick reply and for trying to help. I guess I should give you an example of what I'm looking for: for example, the bottom and rightmost switch on the HOTAS is a 3 way switch that I'd like to assign the following 3 functions: AA master mode when switching up, AG master mode when switching down, and nav master mode in the middle position. I have no idea how to do this. I know it can't be done via DCS assigmnments menu. I've no idea what a lua file is or does, but I can certainly search for documentation if you tell me this is the only way to do it. I'm guessing if I can learn how to setup one of the switches, the others will be easy enough. Thanks

Thanks for the quick reply and for trying to help. I guess I should give you an example of what I'm looking for: for example, the bottom and rightmost switch on the HOTAS is a 3 way switch that I'd like to assign the following 3 functions: AA master mode when switching up, AG master mode when switching down, and nav master mode in the middle position. I have no idea how to do this. I know it can't be done via DCS assigmnments menu. I've no idea what a lua file is or does, but I can certainly search for documentation if you tell me this is the only way to do it. I'm guessing if I can learn how to setup one of the switches, the others will be easy enough. Thanks

I tried that once with a true 3 position switch and found out there's no control for 'Nav Mode'. Bummer.

Up would be AA/OFF, down would be AG/OFF. I happen to have one of those switches, and can poke around at this if I get a chance. SimPit Buttkicker should arrive today, so I might get busy, but I'll give it a shot :thumbup:

Thanks man! Whenever you find the time. Not really in a hurry with the quarantine and all...

It looks like we have the same 'no NAV' problem. The switch physically resets, but it doesn't go out of AA mode unless you click it again.

Thanks for taking the time to help Raisuli. I'll start studying the lua files

Guys, I have looked at the commands for A/A and A/G mode in the "default.lua" file. Each of the commands requires a contact close/open cycle to set the mode and then the same again to reset the mode. There is no possibility to emulate this with the kind of 3-position switch we have on the Warthog throttle. You can of course bind the two commands to two of the switches in a hat; but I don't think that's what you are after.

Guys, I have looked at the commands for A/A and A/G mode in the "default.lua" file. Each of the commands requires a contact close/open cycle to set the mode and then the same again to reset the mode. There is no possibility to emulate this with the kind of 3-position switch we have on the Warthog throttle. You can of course bind the two commands to two of the switches in a hat; but I don't think that's what you are after.

Thanks for looking into it... I'll find another use for the 3-way switch. Perhaps the cms switch...

Thanks for looking into it... I'll find another use for the 3-way switch. Perhaps the cms switch...

I use it for the Dispenser switch (Bypass/ON and OFF/ON) with the middle position for ON. (category "Special For Joystick")

I use it for the Dispenser switch (Bypass/ON and OFF/ON) with the middle position for ON. (category "Special For Joystick")

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. Will give it a go

Hello

I'm about to finish my little home pit. And I'm quite annoyed by 3 way switches.

Could anybody show me an example of what we need to write in the lua for theses switches ?

I guess that it could be something like : if UP then A, if not then B ; if DOWN then C, if not then B.

Sorry if I'm not clear, I'm French...

Thanks a lot

Hello

 

I'm about to finish my little home pit. And I'm quite annoyed by 3 wat switches.

Could anybody show me an example of what we need to write in the lua for theses switches ?

I guess that it could be something like : if UP then A, if not then B ; if DOWN then C, if not then B.

 

Sorry if I'm not clear, I'm French...

 

Thanks a lot

Your English is way better than my French, so you win there!

A lot depends on your switch. Does DCS see three positions, or only two?

To give an example of a two-way switch with three positions and the flap switch you can make up auto/half and down full/half, so moving the switch up puts you in auto flap, returning to center sets it to half. Down is full, return to center is back to half.

If it's a true three position up is auto, middle is half, and down is full.

Thanks a lot.

Unfortunately my switch is a real on-off-off on-off-on, so Dcs sees it as a 2 positions.

I even try to bend the metalic parts inside to convert it as a on-on-on, but it didn't worked. So my last chance is dealing it with lua.

I first worked on the Probe extend/retract/emerg extend.

And I can't use the two extend/retract and emerg extend/retract functions because they're only available with game controllers, and my sim pit is built with Pokeys cards, which workzed like keyboards and not like controllers.

I'm lost...

Thanks a lot.

 

Unfortunately my switch is a real on-off-off, so Dcs sees it as a 2 positions.

 

I even try to bend the metalic parts inside to convert it as a on-on-on, but it didn't worked. So my last chance is dealing it with lua.

 

I first worked on the Probe extend/retract/emerg extend.

 

And I can't use the two extend/retract and emerg extend/retract functions because they're only available with game controllers, and my sim pit is built with Pokeys cards, which workzed like keyboards and not like controllers.

 

I'm lost...

It's probably on-off-on; if you're seeing on-off-off it might be wired wrong. Can you send a picture of the bottom of the switch? Visuals are priceless :)

Sorry dude, my switches are dpdt on-off-on (my phone changed my answer), as you've guessed it.

So I have a total of 6 "pins"

I tried this method today but it didn't worked :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gq6qeck3yijvxxi/DIY%20ON-ON-ON%20Switch.pdf?dl=0

So I guess my last chance is modifying lua.

Sorry dude, my switches are dpdt on-off-on (my phone changed my answer), as you've guessed it.

 

So I have a total of 6 "pins"

 

I tried this method today but it didn't worked :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gq6qeck3yijvxxi/DIY%20ON-ON-ON%20Switch.pdf?dl=0

 

So I guess my last chance is modifying lua.

If you have a multimeter you can test continuity, but most DPDT switches don't work quite that way. I have quite a few 3PST switches and that's exactly how they work.

So what you have are two SPDT switches tied together. You can probably edit the lua to get the job done...which specific control are you trying to get working?