arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hi to everyone, since yesterday I can’t start the engine, I can only get 20% even with auto start. Any suggestions? Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Move your throttle forward and back (your physical throttle) to make sure it's synced with the game. I believe HOME nudges the throttle through the idle positions. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 I will try that, thank you. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Move your throttle forward and back (your physical throttle) to make sure it's synced with the game. I believe HOME nudges the throttle through the idle positions. Hi Zhukov. Is the weather, I’m on Tiflis-Lochini with summer rain and storm and the engine don’t go beyond 20% but if I change to a clear day the engine start perfectly. So weird. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 20% turbine rpm only It look like in certain conditions the turbine don’t start. Edited August 25, 2018 by arturojgt Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiffy Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hydro lock? Hehe :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] It's perfectly ordinary banter Squiffy, "Bally Jerry, pranged his kite, right in the 'how's your father.'" - Monty Python, RAF Banter Sketch. Squiffy, a. slang. 1. Intoxicated; drunk. 2. Askew, skew-whiff. - OED "Put that sucker in a 4G turn and keep it there!!" - Maj. Gen. "Boots" Blesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hydro lock? Hehe :D Can you try there to start in a summer heavy rain storm? I tried summer and winter heavy snow storm and I can’t. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I just tested in summer and heavy rain at Sochi. It lingered for a little while at 20%, but I kept the throttle forward and it slowly began climbing, eventually passing 50% and starting to taxi out. It's working. The weather is just impeding it somehow. Now, I started in a hangar, starting on an open pad may yield slightly different results, but it still works. Keep in mind, that weather IS a factor to consider with your starting procedure, things like pitot heaters, battery heaters, etc, become relevant if temps are sufficiently low. So, that a gale force thunderstorm would affect engine startup is not surprising. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 20% turbine rpm only I just tested in summer and heavy rain at Sochi. It lingered for a little while at 20%, but I kept the throttle forward and it slowly began climbing, eventually passing 50% and starting to taxi out. It's working. The weather is just impeding it somehow. Now, I started in a hangar, starting on an open pad may yield slightly different results, but it still works. Keep in mind, that weather IS a factor to consider with your starting procedure, things like pitot heaters, battery heaters, etc, become relevant if temps are sufficiently low. So, that a gale force thunderstorm would affect engine startup is not surprising. Trying right now at Sochi. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Edited August 25, 2018 by arturojgt Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 I just tested in summer and heavy rain at Sochi. It lingered for a little while at 20%, but I kept the throttle forward and it slowly began climbing, eventually passing 50% and starting to taxi out. It's working. The weather is just impeding it somehow. Now, I started in a hangar, starting on an open pad may yield slightly different results, but it still works. Keep in mind, that weather IS a factor to consider with your starting procedure, things like pitot heaters, battery heaters, etc, become relevant if temps are sufficiently low. So, that a gale force thunderstorm would affect engine startup is not surprising. Nothing. I put a link to a YouTube video below. https://youtu.be/IG68yBOvQVY Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 In neither instance did you put the throttle forward and leave it. You put it forward and then quit the game. I said, put it forward and leave it for about 30-60 seconds, see if it starts moving then. It was very sluggish to start, but it did indeed work for me. Failing that, I would say you've got something else going on. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Nothing. I put a link to a YouTube video below. Thanks, it made it much easier to diagnose your problem at Sochi-Adler. TL;DR: Strong tail winds will stop a successful F-86 engine start, adjust wind direction/strength or parking spot accordingly. Detail: "Summer. Heavy Thunderstorm" has a ground wind of 19 m/s (37 knots) to 330° True • At ramp#56, this is a strong tail wind and looks to be stopping a successful engine start. Although ramp#56 is inside a hanger, it's likely the F-86 engine model doesn't take it into account, hence the problem. • Set wind to zero (like "Summer. Clean sky, no wind"), reduce it (i.e. to 9 m/s) or • Switch to ramp#54 (so it becomes a headwind instead) will enable a successful engine start. Tested in DCS 2.5.2.20601 Edited August 26, 2018 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Thanks, it made it much easier to diagnose your problem at Sochi-Adler. TL;DR: Strong tail winds will stop a successful F-86 engine start, adjust wind direction/strength or parking spot accordingly. Detail: "Summer. Heavy Thunderstorm" has a ground wind of 19 m/s (37 knots) to 330° True • At ramp#56, this is a strong tail wind and looks to be stopping a successful engine start. Although ramp#56 is inside a hanger, it's likely the F-86 engine model doesn't take it into account, hence the problem. • Set wind to zero (like "Summer. Clean sky, no wind"), reduce it or • Switch to ramp#54 (so it becomes a headwind instead) will enable a successful engine start. Tested in DCS 2.5.2.20601 Wow, It was the tail wind. I changed the wind directions and no problems. Is there a part in the manual where this is mentioned? Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Hey, with the weather did you have an overheating jet pipe? Just last night I was talking ot a good friend who used to be a crew chief on Pave Lows. He said that they couldn't start in a tailwind if it was too high, I wanna say he said 10kts, because the exhaust wouldn't leave the pipe and you would overheat your turbine. Maybe that's a real thing in DCS too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Hey, with the weather did you have an overheating jet pipe? Just last night I was talking ot a good friend who used to be a crew chief on Pave Lows. He said that they couldn't start in a tailwind if it was too high, I wanna say he said 10kts, because the exhaust wouldn't leave the pipe and you would overheat your turbine. Maybe that's a real thing in DCS too? Yes, I think that behavior is simulated in this sim just like a guy said in a previous response. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Pro Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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