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Old 06-11-2019, 11:00 PM   #11
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I just did a partial upgrade to my system (cpu, mobo, ram), and ended up with Gigabyte z390 Aorus Pro motherboard. Most of the reviews suggests it has the best VRM (voltage regulator module) implementation. VRM comes into a play when you overclock your CPU, and what I've gathered from the research is that Gigabyte did it better than other brands (MSI,Asus).
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:48 PM   #12
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[QUOTE=Milou;3946069]I have not seen any Ryzen 3000 clocking as low as 5GHz on LN2. Can you post a link to these low LN2 overlocks that you say you've seen?

Meanwhile, you'd like a link to my statement that air-cooled OCs are coming in at 5.0-5.1GHz... sure. Here is one: Gamers Nexis words were "That 5100MHz overclock was done with air cooling on the CPU and is a result of better trace layout and a new controller design." https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/...g-architecture


Sorry I don't know where I got the low from ofc meant high... and the article is on LN. The 51000MHz is for oveclock the memory not the processor.
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:08 AM   #13
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You also have the consider the security vulnerabilities of the intel cpu`s due to their architecture which have resulted in anything up to and above a 20% hit in performance due to Zombieload etc. So a 5ghz intel cpu will not perform as a 5gig part. Lot`s of issues with intel, I`m saying this as someone who has always had intel and is rocking a oc`ed i7 4790k. My next build is likely AMD, who have also been breaking new ground with PCIe 4.0 giving 5gb/s data transfer for new gen ssd`s with Samsung getting 15gb/s in a raid setup. Ryzen 3000 brings higher IPC, double cache size for better gaming performance and support for 5000mhz ram, a big improvement for latency and VR.

.... and of course AMD matching/exceeding intel`s i9 at $499, half the price.

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Old 06-12-2019, 06:38 AM   #14
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You also have the consider the security vulnerabilities of the intel cpu`s due to their architecture which have resulted in anything up to and above a 20% hit in performance due to Zombieload etc.
Good point. Although you can bet the AMD applied micropatches to Intel CPUs when doing their comparisons.

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Sorry I don't know where I got the low from ofc meant high... and the article is on LN. The 51000MHz is for oveclock the memory not the processor.
Surely you mean 5100MHz memory OC, not 51000MHz?

And I think you will find these memory overclocks do not require LN2. They would be done on air. Totally impractical and irrelevant however as they would require inefficient memory timings and golden sample DIMMs. Zen 2 has improved memory speeds however with a 3600-3733MHz / 1T sweet spot. Impressive and another feather in its cap vs Intel.
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:43 PM   #15
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Also keep an eye out for the 9900KS, its an all core 5.0ghz version of the 9900K
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:53 PM   #16
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Looks like things are in motion atm. July is going to be exciting!
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:12 PM   #17
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Also keep an eye out for the 9900KS, its an all core 5.0ghz version of the 9900K
the problem is, finding something for the other 6 cores to do.
any spare apps?
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:46 PM   #18
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This just leaked today into tom's hw.

AMD Ryzen 3950X Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13495867

original thread:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...nch,39640.html

I would wait and see what AMD has to offer. It really looks promising.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:04 PM   #19
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Also, I read today that AMDs performance comparison slides did not apply the latest security patches to Intel's 9900K (which would slow the Intel) and did not use the latest build of Windows 10 on AMD (which loads single chipsets before loading the other which would speed the AMD if used).

So on that basis the AMD promises much. Wait for independent testing? The golden rule is wait. But those that waited on RTX 2080 Ti were left waiting a month before having a chance to jump onboard after launch. Does that matter to you? Only you can say.
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the problem is, finding something for the other 6 cores to do.
any spare apps?
Totally OT, but you know what, with all that useless processing power at hand it's a shame this client OS called Windows 10 does not allow multiple indep. KVM to make a real multi-user Desktop. 1 round table, PC in the middle and as many users as you have cores and GPUs


Sigh...maybe in 2035, when Linux becomes the Windows Kernel, things become doable.
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