3rd unanounced helicopter speculation

Hi,

ok, first this topic here states 3rd Aannounced helicopter speculations.

Panavia Tornado family is not a helicopter, otherwise the officials I talked to of the company would have told me that it is a VTOL and well, anyhting about the Tornado will be stated in a different topic.

I can tell you here, which I will state again soon, that I have my contacts and surely talk to the right people for a Tornado product.

As I can not see anybody doing the tornado, and knowing from official side about license conditions, that we are on a good track.

Let us keep this topic to the helo specualtions.

 

Cheers

Sven

 

edit: we will give an update soon, just need to check with Olli and Pat what we want to show.

I guess if we agree on some certain news you guys might be blown away on what we work on.

Just to state things clearly beforehand, we will try to only make official claims on modules if we are getting the license form the planecompanies, or if it looks super promising.

Do to the fact that I am handelling the license talks right now, I do also know if other companies hold licenses for certain products or not. I am not revealing about other 3rd parties but I can tell you, I have talked to all the big players in the bussiness and have a good picture of what is going on

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Hi,

ok, first this topic here states 3rd Aannounced helicopter speculations.

Panavia Tornado family is not a helicopter, otherwise the officials I talked to of the company would have told me that it is a VTOL and well, anyhting about the Tornado will be stated in a different topic.

I can tell you here, which I will state again soon, that I have my contacts and surely talk to the right people for a Tornado product.

As I can not see anybody doing the tornado, and knowing from official side about license conditions, that we are on a good track.

Let us keep this topic to the helo specualtions.

 

Cheers

Sven

 

edit: we will give an update soon, just need to check with Olli and Pat what we want to show.

I guess if we agree on some certain news you guys might be blown away on what we work on.

Just to state things clearly beforehand, we will try to only make official claims on modules if we are getting the license form the planecompanies, or if it looks super promising.

Do to the fact that I am handelling the license talks right now, I do also know if other companies hold licenses for certain products or not. I am not revealing about other 3rd parties but I can tell you, I have talked to all the big players in the bussiness and have a good picture of what is going on

Sven, just out of curiosity why would any manufacturer have an issue with their item in a sim game? Is it political or more due to things being classified? Or is it just a copyright thing? Do they ask for compensation/payment for using their stuff?

If it's copyright I wonder if it would be acceptable to ED and the community to use fake names for some aircraft?

If it's copyright I wonder if it would be acceptable to ED and the community to use fake names for some aircraft?

AFAIK it could be fake names, shape, functionality, etc. You shouldn't resemble in any way the details of a product.

Copyright is a beast when you come to details.

But I'm courious also about what could be important for a manufacturer :)

Yep, fake names won't do any good since the design itself is copyrighted.

A good example is ArmA3, those vehicles resemble real designs but since there is no license they were changed quite a bit to not violate copyright laws.

AFAIK it could be fake names, shape, functionality, etc. You shouldn't resemble in any way the details of a product.

Copyright is a beast when you come to details.

 

But I'm courious also about what could be important for a manufacturer :)

Yea, I sorta figured that... I suppose they would wanna avoid it if they had to change all of that... it just wouldn't be the same aircraft at that point.

Copyright is just a small part of intellectual property law. The issues are larger than just copyright.

@StandingCow:

All of your questions can be answered with yes and no. It depends on the manufacturer.

I will not go into any specific details on any license negotiations. sorry to say so, but I can not and will not share bussiness internals to you or any other person outside our company or to anybody who is not involved in the license negotiations.

Therefore I have to answer with yes and no. Sorry to say so.

Cheers

Sven

@StandingCow:

All of your questions can be answered with yes and no. It depends on the manufacturer.

I will not go into any specific details on any license negotiations. sorry to say so, but I can not and will not share bussiness internals to you or any other person outside our company or to anybody who is not involved in the license negotiations.

Therefore I have to answer with yes and no. Sorry to say so.

 

Cheers

Sven

Ah ok, I meant overall, no specifics. It's cool, it was pure curiosity is all. :)

Well in an overall general answer I have to answer yes and no, as before stated.

What I can tell you though is one fact. When you talk to people in that bussiness you have to know how they think and what it is all about. If you feel unsecure, let somebody else to the job of talking.

First entry is the win or loose situation.

But it depends on the company and the person on the other side too. Some are easier to handle then others.

Well in an overall general answer I have to answer yes and no, as before stated.

What I can tell you though is one fact. When you talk to people in that bussiness you have to know how they think and what it is all about. If you feel unsecure, let somebody else to the job of talking.

First entry is the win or loose situation.

But it depends on the company and the person on the other side too. Some are easier to handle then others.

Cool, thanks for the answer!

Can you guys at least give us a hint about what type of mission the 3rd helicopter can do.If it's an attack helo,it most likely points it to being the Eurocopter Tiger.If its a transport or utility helo,then i have no clue what it could be.:D

only hint I can give is, that it is an Airbus Helicopters product :-)

NH-90 Caiman?))

Do you remember that DCS is began from LO:MAC - Lock On Modern AirCraft?)))

:D

NH90 has a new surname ? Never heard it before but interesting.

Well lets see, so many specualtions, maybe a poll would help to see which one the community would like to have and check which one we are negotiating ?

NH-90 Caiman?))

Do you remember that DCS is began from LO:MAC - Lock On Modern AirCraft?)))

It was "Lock On: Modern Air Combat." In any case, I'm really hoping for a tiger. We have 2 utility choppers already with two more anti-tank equipped utilities on the way. When it comes to proper attack choppers, we have a prototype Ka-50 and might at some point have a BST developed Mi-24.

a poll with all the Airbus helicopters including the unanounced one would be such a tease...

...so where is it? :D

Hmm....

AS565 would sure be something.

Unless its an Attack helicopter, no interest. Tiger will be an instant pre-order.

:D

 

NH90 has a new surname ? Never heard it before but interesting.

 

Well lets see, so many specualtions, maybe a poll would help to see which one the community would like to have and check which one we are negotiating ?

A poll would rather fit into a wishlist thread, not so much in a speculation thread and I'm pretty sure the most wanted Airbus helicopter would most certainly be the Tiger. ;)

But that doesn't mean it's likely to happen, or is it? :D

As long as it goes..........."Whoop....Whoop....Whoop" Im IN!!!:thumbup:

:D

 

NH90 has a new surname ? Never heard it before but interesting.

 

Our Aussie nh-90s are officially called MRH-90 Taipan, but I would be more interested in hearing what the guys flying them call them.

Our Aussie nh-90s are officially called MRH-90 Taipan, but I would be more interested in hearing what the guys flying them call them.

I've only spoken to one pilot about them but the words "that piece of shit" were used.

I've only spoken to one pilot about them but the words "that piece of shit" were used.

Hahaha nice one ! :megalol:

For the third helicopter developpement, what about the AS330 Puma ? Would fit perfectly with the gazelle, it's still flying nowadays all around the globe in every climates, and I don't think there would a lot of be "defense security sensitive" systems...And of course, there is plenty of documentation available for this chopper

I've only spoken to one pilot about them but the words "that piece of shit" were used.

Now I'm curious to know why he doesn't like it?? :huh: