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Old 03-25-2019, 12:29 AM   #111
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Question: Are Case 1 and Case 3 traps differentiated or do they have equal weight on the squadron Greenie board.

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Great question! We did put a little border around night traps. Some squadrons didn't. They all were used to calculate your grades. Night, pitching deck, MOVLAS, all the same on paper anyway!
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:18 AM   #112
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This and the flaps/DLC write up you did are actually gold mines of information, thanks for taking the time to do that for everyone. The no HUD landings have drastically improved my traps.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:41 AM   #113
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Ref: Greenie Board

Thanks guys. We've got a small group and in this respect we want it to be treated in a professional manner and as accurate as possible to what is used in actual squadrons.

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Old 03-25-2019, 04:33 PM   #114
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Any tips on keeping altitude in this bird when performing the break into the pattern? My real life general aviation skills aren't translating very well in this lol. Instead of being able to keep within 100 feet of assigned altitude, I'm jumping up 400 feet or descending 200 feet or so as soon as I initiate the break.
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Old 03-25-2019, 04:41 PM   #115
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Any tips on keeping altitude in this bird when performing the break into the pattern? My real life general aviation skills aren't translating very well in this lol. Instead of being able to keep within 100 feet of assigned altitude, I'm jumping up 400 feet or descending 200 feet or so as soon as I initiate the break.
Have you read the document that prompted this thread?
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:40 PM   #116
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Have you read the document that prompted this thread?
Yes, 60 or 70 degree bank and pull at 400 knots, 800 MSL, and 68 degrees wing sweep usually results in me being above pattern altitude a few hundred feet.

I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong here. Even with a massive amount of opposite rudder I usually end up at 900 or 1000 msl when leveling out. Without rudder my VVI is dropping to -1000 or -2000.
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That’s not what the break description says. Keep reading.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:32 AM   #118
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Yes, 60 or 70 degree bank and pull at 400 knots, 800 MSL, and 68 degrees wing sweep usually results in me being above pattern altitude a few hundred feet.

I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong here. Even with a massive amount of opposite rudder I usually end up at 900 or 1000 msl when leveling out. Without rudder my VVI is dropping to -1000 or -2000.
Also, that's not what the rudder is for.
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:10 PM   #119
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Really useful tips Victory, thanks.

It’s also slightly depressing. I thought I was getting good at traps, then read this again and realised how many mistakes I’m making.

Going to spend a week or two perfecting these techniques and put the missions on hold. Good stuff
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:51 PM   #120
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That’s not what the break description says. Keep reading.
Apparently my eyes glazed over pressing the "AUTO" wingsweep button. No issues now, thank you.

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Also, that's not what the rudder is for.
I'm aware, I was just trying things to get my apparently incorrect technique to work.
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