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Old 03-14-2019, 10:50 PM   #1
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Default Victory's F14 Case I Pattern/Landing Tips

Here is the Case I Landing Tips Paper Part Deux.

It's a a 7200+ word PDF so you can reference it offline.

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Great, thank you sir!
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Hi dawgie, I'm having trouble with the f14 and Sidewinder locks and the sparrow nothing seems to lock on target I usually get a lost lock message. I don't know if its the beta version or my puter but a lot of screen jerks and locks lately. Jester seems to work when it wants to. Are you having any problems with the F14B
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Here is the Case I Landing Tips Paper.

It's a a 5800 word PDF so you can reference it offline.

Fly the Ball
Really good write up, and thorough. One small item that I expected to see but didn’t:

Don’t trim in the turn. Or at least, no more than a couple clicks but better to leave it alone than chase it. Set on-speed on downwind and trust it. I brief others to not trim in the turn, but actually used two clicks rolling in, and two clicks rolling out to compensate for the added knots.

Also, one correction. When referencing VSI in the groove, I think you got the correction backwards.
>700 = add a little power
<700 = ease a little off

Otherwise, great job.
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I never trimmed in turns and never taught that, nor did I ever hear it recommended. No need if squared away downwind. There is no feel in the sim, and right now, due to damping, the AOA is more difficult to lock in than in reality. That should change soon along with a few other landing config tweaks.

I flew slightly slow around the turn.

I'll check the VSI reference.

Edit: no, it's correct, but could have been stated better "as greater than and lesser than". It references absolute baseline ROD.

I'll change it when a new build comes out and some of the FF numbers change.

Are you currently flying the release version?
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Edit: no, it's correct, but could have been stated better "as greater than and lesser than". It references absolute baseline ROD.

I'll change it when a new build comes out and some of the FF numbers change.

Are you currently flying the release version?
I guess you’re referencing viewing the needle position from baseline? i.e., if the needle is above 700fpm? I can see what you’re saying from that perspective, but if it’s in terms of actual ROD I’m not quite following. Approaching the start, I got call outs from the backseat for VVI, so I referenced his callouts, not the actual VSI.

No, I won’t get to fly it for some time yet.

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I guess you’re referencing viewing the needle position from baseline? i.e., if the needle is above 700fpm? I can see what you’re saying from that perspective, but if it’s in terms of actual ROD I’m not quite following. Approaching the start, I got call outs from the backseat for VVI, so I referenced numbers not the actual VSI.

No, I won’t get to fly it for some time yet.
Think of it as "the VSI needle below or above the 700fpm" baseline position. It isn't the clearest way to put it.

My RIO's couldn't see the VSI very well, I'm too tall! Had them try to call deviations at night until we called the ball, but not during the day.

The sim is a little different at the moment and the guide attempts to take that into account.

One issue is that you really can't see the ball until in the middle. That shiny radar dome behind the lens dominates the view. The ICLS needles help. Hope there is some way to enlarge the mirror to offset the resolution limitations, but am not holding my breath.

As I said in the paper, everyone flies the pattern a little differently. My curveball is different than yours...
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