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Old 12-16-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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Interesting comparision between Gripen and F-35. Unfortunately in Dutch but you will get it. Notice the lack of the towed decoy on the F-35.

http://www.refdag.nl/media/2008/2008...um_graphic.pdf
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:55 AM   #2
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Interesting. Sadly one has more to offer under the table than the other.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:46 AM   #3
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Seeing it like this doesn't make the F-35 much better
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:14 PM   #4
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If some translations are needed, just ask... there are dutch people around...
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:59 PM   #5
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Cool groove. Guys look at the difference in power of the engine WoW
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Cool groove. Guys look at the difference in power of the engine WoW
Correct me if im wrong but isn't the F-35s engine the most powerful engine out there? (for fighters)
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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Yes, but the F-35 is still a fatty. With that weight, it will never be a racecar. The max flight height of 12.000 m. (about 40.000 ft) is not impressive either.
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Correct me if im wrong but isn't the F-35s engine the most powerful engine out there? (for fighters)
Yeah, and compare the consumption! It's in Brandstofgebruik line!
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Old 12-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #9
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F-35 has the most powerfull fighter mounted engine ever (F135 I believe) . Later on they will use an even more powerfull engine, the F-136 If Im not mistakened.

F-35 quoted thrust to weight ratio is modest but take in consideration the ammount of fuel it carries.

Overal dogfighting capabilites right now is a big mistery. Pilots say it will sustain turns better than the f-16 and has a better climb ratio. After that its pretty much unknown.


The only thing that realy stands out in this fighter to others is its stealth features and cockpit-pilot interface.


Comparing the gripen to the F-35 seems a bit unfair. the 35 is more on the F-18 class while the gripen is even smaller than the F-16.

The Gripen will have one small advantage though. It will be carrying the meteor missile long before anyone else gets to use it on the 35.

Gripen is a bit expensive but 35 is considerably more, plus there might be complications regarding maintaining the stealth skin. Not all users can take care of it lovingly. Many airforces end up with their planes with paint flaking and surface scratches, wear etc.

It also remains to be seen how much of the special features the americans will hold for just their own comparing to the export custumers.
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Notice the lack of the towed decoy on the F-35.
Here's a pair of nice .pdf on towed decoys:
http://www.raytheon.com/businesses/s...sset/ale50.pdf

http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/ns97094.pdf
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