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[REPORTED]Bizarre Walleye issue


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I have been battling with the Walleye for a few days now. A lot of things work sometimes and not others.

 

Here I just want to focus on the issue regarding slewing to a WPDSG target. In EVERY DCS session, it works OK the first time, but then it doesn't in subsequent attempts. I know it sounds crazy, but I posted a track here https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4403348&postcount=12 and if you watch it once, everything is OK and the seeker slews to the target. Watch it again or any subsequent times, and it doesn't work.

 

I thought I was going mad, but another person on that thread confirmed it was the same for him.


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Pretty sure this is a bug as the behaviour in the Stable version is perfectly OK. Uncages to lock WPDSG every time.

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OK I'm seeing the same behavior the first run through the slew works fine, the second the camera stays focused on the clouds... strange!

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Hi,

 

we do have an issue reported and fixed for the next patch.

 

When using WPDSG it will only slave the first time, but not the second.

 

that is probably what you are seeing

 

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Thanks BN. That's reassuring. I thought I was going mad!

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Hi,

 

we do have an issue reported and fixed for the next patch.

 

When using WPDSG it will only slave the first time, but not the second.

 

that is probably what you are seeing

 

thanks

 

Sorry BN, this is not fixed in today's patch. In fact, it doesn't even work once for me any more. TDC will not slew to WPDSG target at all any more.

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Sorry BN, this is not fixed in today's patch. In fact, it doesn't even work once for me any more. TDC will not slew to WPDSG target at all any more.

 

Update on that. Sometimes it works once, sometimes not at all, and at other times, it slews way off to the left and sometimes all the way over to the right.

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Yep I'm still seeing the exact same behavior, BN can you confirm that this fix went in ?

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Ive set the thread back to investigating, currently all seems normal for me.

 

WPDSG Even on the second session seems fine to me, I will have another tester check also.

 

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Another tester has checked, he only see's an issue on more than one track replay.

 

In game they behave correctly

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Concur, it seems to be just the Track that is behaving broken now, in game behavior is "good for me"

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Sorry guys, I honestly think it's just not working. Sometimes you think it's working, but it's not. You can go into a mission - e.g. the Caucasus stock Walleye one - unslave the Walleye to the WPDSG target (WP1) and it'll work. Slave, try again and occasionally it'll work but most of the time it just goes way off to the right, nowhere near the target.

See attached new track from stock mission. Please try it more than once or twice.

After it stops working, it will not work again in that DCS session. It needs a DSC restart to work - once! - again.

Let me say again, this behaviour does NOT occur in the stable version. Everything works perfectly there with the Walleye.

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OK, I take it back , i am still seeing this with when you designate waypoint as a target .. if you designate "normally" ala chucks guide you dont get the problem


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OK, I take it back , i am still seeing this with when you designate waypoint as a target .. if you designate "normally" ala chucks guide you dont get the problem

 

Phew! Yep, it’s always been about WPDSG targets.

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You can go into a mission - e.g. the Caucasus stock Walleye one - unslave the Walleye to the WPDSG target (WP1) and it'll work. Slave, try again and occasionally it'll work but most of the time it just goes way off to the right, nowhere near the target.

 

After it stops working, it will not work again in that DCS session. It needs a DSC restart to work - once! - again.

I can confirm this behaviour under current OB (2.5.6.52196). Walleye works at most once in the same mission within the same DCS session.

 

Tracks incl. explanations of the issue are available here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4428860&postcount=29


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OK, so we are still struggling to get this [REPORTED] after quite a long time.

To make things worse, this behaviour is also happening for me with the 65F Mavs. See attached track.

Same as Walleye. Works perfectly the first time, but after doing a shift-r, it doesn't. I think this is the issue, that some people are not seeing it as it appears to work OK at first.

I have eliminated any controller issues by disconnecting them all and just using keyboard and mouse. Still the same.

Simple to replicate, load the stock Walleye mission, WPDSG WP1, uncage Walleye, it works. Even crab it and undesignate, then WPDSG again and uncage. All works great.

Then, do a shift-r. It doesn't work. TDC just flies over to the right. Occasionally it'll work after one restart, but just try it again.

The fact that it is happening to me on the Mavs is worrying!

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OK, i get the same strange behavior with AGM-65F, normal designation works fine, however if you start with WPDSG, it will work once and then subsequent attempts will have the seeker head drift pf to the right when uncaged

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Hi all,

 

I am currently on vacation, however the team have reproduced this and it is reported.

 

thank you

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Great news! Thanks BN

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I am currently on vacation, however the team have reproduced this and it is reported.
Thx! Enjoy your vacation!

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This issue has been fixed in 53756.

 

Thanks guys!

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