razo+r Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Does anyone have any information of what the max G load is or when the wings should fall off (without damage)? Today, I've turned with a mustang at 550 kph, flaps full down, blackout was slowly coming and suddenly, my left wing fell off... So I'm asking myself, does anyone have informations about that? nothing was in the manual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying-Kane Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Strange, i never lost a wing in the FW, unless you go down with 850+ km/h and pull the stick to hard... But why did you use the flaps? These aren't combat flaps... AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | 32GB DDR4 RAM | NVidia RTX4080 | MSI B550 TOMAHAWK | Creative X-Fi Titanium | Win 10 Pro 64bit | Track IR4 Pro | Thrustmaster Warthog | Saitek Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Strange, i never lost a wing in the FW, unless you go down with 850+ km/h and pull the stick to hard... But why did you use the flaps? These aren't combat flaps... true, those aren't combat flaps, but I use them to keep up turning with the mustangs (and loose speed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Were you rolling while pulling? Rolling increases the G-load of the rising wing, which can make that wing go from "almost at G-limit" to "over G-limit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 And flap configurations can also affect structural limitations... Come check me out on YouTube! Twitch! Have a listen to the Alert 5 Podcast - YOUR source for the latest combat flight simulation news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Right—if nothing else, flaps = more lift = more G-forces, at a given speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Were you rolling while pulling? Rolling increases the G-load of the rising wing, which can make that wing go from "almost at G-limit" to "over G-limit." at the time i started to pull, I was not rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Right—if nothing else, flaps = more lift = more G-forces, at a given speed. Well, that is what i'm asking for, we kind off now the g limit for the mustang and the spitfire, but since we rarely brake wings in german planes, i'd like to know what the limit would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just tested again in SP: 550 kph, full flaps down and a bank like i did and pulled harder on the stick than I did when the wing fell off. Surprisingly, this time, the wing did not fall off, and in outside view, the Gs were at 5.9... looks like either it's random or like in the F-5, the damage will come after some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo38 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Very little is random in DCS. Accumulated stress damage seems more plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Would be very nice to hear something more about this, especially from devs, I was not aware of anything like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 8, 2017 ED Team Share Posted May 8, 2017 I talk to Yo-Yo about this, there is indeed accumulative damage to the wings, the strength decreases depending on the amount of excessive force place on the wing. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopes Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 what do you expect with full flaps at that speed. Think of the pressure under the wings. There is a reason aircraft are given speed limits at different angles of flap. Have you noticed the more Degree of flap used the slower the airspeed. If your interested in a realism WWII squad, drop by our Discord. https://discordapp.com/invite/BK7kxZx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCuvier Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Quite normal for a metal structure. The stress level it can withstand depends on other variables like duration, and the dynamics of the stress. So if the stress has an element of vibration or rapid load change, the structure weakens more rapidly. LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 I talk to Yo-Yo about this, there is indeed accumulative damage to the wings, the strength decreases depending on the amount of excessive force place on the wing. Ok, thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I got the wings to break on the P-51 today... oops Come check me out on YouTube! Twitch! Have a listen to the Alert 5 Podcast - YOUR source for the latest combat flight simulation news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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