Schmidtfire Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Tested on the latest 2.0 Alpha patch. Su-33 has new controls with left/right toe breaks like the Su-27. Did a fast takeoff and landing, no scripted "stickiness", bounced the way it should. Feels very alive in the air now and if would say it is AFM. Can someone else confirm? :) Edited March 23, 2017 by Schmidtfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 trolling?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 New controls? Yes New FM? Nah Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Im not the first one reacting, thats why I tested it. Compare the ground handling to the other SFM planes, It's different and it is very noticable during landing and takeoff. With SFM, the aircraft usually "sticks" to the runway. Note: This is only on Nevada in latest 2.0 Alpha patch. Not in 1.5.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just try if you can use the rudder to induce a dutch roll, or it has any flight control system features. (e.g. Roll-Yaw Crossfeed System) EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It still doesn't have it's own FM folder or .dll so probably not. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I just tested it again and it was probably to good to be true... However I could push S key and perform a cobra, don't know if it has been working before on the Su-33? It feels like something has changed. Maybe some SFM tuning or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Easiest way to tell: Go absurdly fast, press S, and yank. If the wings come off then there's definitely something new. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpoon Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I just tested it again and it was probably to good to be true... However I could push S key and perform a cobra, don't know if it has been working before on the Su-33? It feels like something has changed. Maybe some SFM tuning or something? Your install is clean, right? Make sure no mods interfere with the 33's flight dynamics. I know a mod that allows you to perform cobras in SFM fighters like you used to be able to. If you want to talk to anyone about anything personal, send it to their PM box. Interpersonal drama and ad hominem rebuttal are things that do not belong on a thread viewed by the public. One thing i have to point out... naming a thread.. "OK, so" is as useful as tits on a bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvETito Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 There definite difference between Su-33 in 2.0 and 1.5, especially at high AOA. In 2.0 it's shaking as well but it's much more controllable. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Still SFM. Ground handling is unchanged as far as I can tell. (Zero mass in turns, very fiddly rotation during takeoff, etc). It appears they've re-enabled the old scripted cobra functionality, but other than that I didn't notice any differences in flight dynamics. 1 DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The key-bind for the FCS disconnect is there (labeled same as the Su-27 S key in the list) and it's assigned to the cobra function, I guess? This is a lot like the late-SFM F-15C when they added the keys for the PFM a month or two prior to implementing the new FM. Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Sized Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The key-bind for the FCS disconnect is there (labeled same as the Su-27 S key in the list) and it's assigned to the cobra function, I guess? This is a lot like the late-SFM F-15C when they added the keys for the PFM a month or two prior to implementing the new FM. Yeah, it seems like some sort of screw up involving the keyboard command lua's. It might also be related to the starforce issues (iirc it's messing with the sim's internal organization and causing general havoc) Personally I like your theory the most :D DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drona Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well, at least that's some good news to all Su-33 lovers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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