AH-64 or Lynx

Hi,

I did a quick search, but does anyone know of any detailed up and coming AH-64 Apache, WG-13 Lynx / Super Lynx or Merlin addons? Ideally, as complex as the A10 or Huey?

Thank you

I don't know about other aircrafts, but what only I know is that AH-64 will not come for a loooooonnnng loooonnnnnggg time!... :(

booooooo :)

Would love a Lynx - even the Mk.2 or 3 unfortunately there's still too many things in my opinion that DCS is lacking to make proper maritime helicopters worth their while.

Army Lynx though, not the naval version for me.

Wasn't there a post that hinted of the Mi-24 Hind a while back? Or was that taken back...

The systems on the Apache are so complex it'd take aeons to make it!

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The systems on the Apache are so complex it'd take aeons to make it!

That's not the reason.

I'm also guessing that a lot of its systems are still highly classified?

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The only helicopter module that has been confirmed and is in production is the Mi-24P Hind from Belsimtek. It was put on hold some time back though, then we were told that production was resumed on the module, and after that there was no more news. I assume that work continues on the module behind the scenes.

Another helicopter that was teased was the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion, by Razbam about a week or so back. It was just teased though, no idea whether it is actually in production or not.

That's not the reason.

Then please, indulge us in your wisdom instead of only patronizing :P

Another helicopter that was teased was the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion, by Razbam about a week or so back. It was just teased though, no idea whether it is actually in production or not.

Yeah, it's unclear if it's a module or just an AI asset for their Harrier module.

Would love a Lynx - even the Mk.2 or 3 unfortunately there's still too many things in my opinion that DCS is lacking to make proper maritime helicopters worth their while.

Like what? Just interested?

Janes did 2 good simulators back in the day. I am sure a DCS developer could do something.

Pleeeeease someone make a MD500 Scout/enforcer!

Like what? Just interested?

What's missing for naval helicopters? Well mainly it revolves around the fact that underwater doesn't exist in DCS this also means we don't have any ASW sensors such as SONAR (be it active, passive, dipping or otherwise) or MAD (Magnetic Anomaly Detector). Not having an underwater also means we have no ASW weapons - no torpedoes, no depth charges, no mines or ASW rockets. Most importantly, submarines also cannot dive or submerge and can't be used for combat in DCS - the best you can do if fire at a surfaced submarine that has no ability to react defensively. We're also lacking other features from the maritime environment as well, but they don't impact naval helicopters as much...

All in all realistic ASW is quite far away from being a thing in DCS

The HAS.2 and HAS.3 were both designed for ASW (HAS = Helicopter Anti Submarine).

The HMA.8 is more multi-role (HMA = Helicopter Maritime Attack)

We also don't have rescue hoists/winches which also means no troop fast-roping, while we do have sling-loading.

In other words we can't do this:

Or this:

Lynx HAS.2, HAS.3 and maybe the HMA.8 (not sure though) had dipping SONAR - not possible in DCS. I believe the Lynx was also able to perform HIFR (Helicopter In Flight Refuelling) from above the deck of ships, which also isn't possible in DCS.

We can however do this:

and this:

So the naval Lynx can be used for humanitarian purposes and maybe Carrier On-board Delivery as well as ASuW, but can't be used for ASW meaning it also can't use it's dipping SONAR. It also can't be used for troop insertion, SAR/CSAR or anything else using the rescue hoist/winch.

Land versions of the Lynx however: AH.1, AH.5, AH.7 and AH.9 are all fully feasible in DCS as all features can be implemented minus the rescue hoist/winch

Well, now the Hind is publicly announced, so more Helos, Ahoy!

In addition to that, Wags mentioned in the recent Q&A that some version of the Apache is not a question of 'if', but 'when'... So no Apache for a while, but it is likely we will see it in the long run.

Naturally as it was not a 'public announcement' I would take it with a pinch of salt.

Regards,

MikeMikeJuliet

FWIW, helicopters that are somewhat official-ish and can be looked forward to are:

- Mi-24P from Belsimtek, as mentioned

- Postponed a few times, but I personally find it likely that sometime after the Hind, Belsimtek will like pick up AH-1W again, but that's just a prediction at this point, and nothing more

- After split of PolyChop, newly forming Miltech-5 is planning to continue on with the multi versions of Bo-105

- Polychop themselves have recently hinted OH-58 Kiowa in some facebook posts.

However, only Mi-24 is certain among them.

Then please, indulge us in your wisdom instead of only patronizing :P

Yes. Sorry for my attitude. :) I think I shouldn't write something when drunk. :)