Sonoda Umi Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 If u turn off WCS 60fps again, that's strange. Best Regards. HI, I have the same fps drop here. What dose "turn off WCS" mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 AN/AWG-9 Weapon Control System (WCS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSETI Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 HI, I have the same fps drop here. What dose "turn off WCS" mean? #7 Best Regards. A good plan violently executed today is better than a perfect plan executed tomorrow. General George S. Patton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShermanZA Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Booted up an SP session to test the WCS. As soon as the WCS had finished warming and the DDD and TID came online, the frame rate tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoda Umi Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 #7 Best Regards. Yea. That's so strange. Turn on the radar screen will cause huge fps drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECTAE Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I did some tests. All SP instant action. I did delete all metashadercache and fxo, no SSLR or other fancy preset. Both on HIGH preset, exact same options. 2D. And this is only SP. MP is a nightmare. I had 12-14fps while on the ground. My results. OB 2.5.6.43505 f16 takeoff Nevada 62 fps f18 cold dark Nevada 52 fps f14 watching devil dogs pilot 62 /rio 23 fps OB 2.5.5.41962 (old one) f16 takeoff Nevada 81 fps f18 cold dark Nevada 64 fps f14 watching devil dogs pilot 80 /rio 74 fps Did not know about turning off the WCS. I'll check that out later. But for now, I'll stick with the old version. 20FPS for me its the difference between smooth or crappy in VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRSHADO Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Yep :thumbup: Can confirm turning WCS to OFF relieves the severe FPS latency in the RIO seat (VR) instantly. I am not too good at grabbing framerates - perhaps someone can verify that with some fps numbers for the team - but with my specs (below), the RIO cockpit goes from unusable to normal! Edited February 15, 2020 by MRSHADO added "instantly" i7-8700K / 64GB RAM / ASUS Strix GTX 1080 Ti / (Win 10 Pro) / Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffdude Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Yep :thumbup: Can confirm turning WCS to OFF relieves the severe FPS latency in the RIO seat (VR) instantly. I am not too good at grabbing framerates - perhaps someone can verify that with some fps numbers for the team - but with my specs (below), the RIO cockpit goes from unusable to normal! Ok We did a good test here. WCS on (after warm up when screens come up) my FPS went from 67 to 9 FPS. Switching WCS to OFF restores to 67 FPS I am rocking a Ryzen 2500 with an nvidia 1080. Memory at 32Gb and M.2 NVME SSD for storage. My wife (and normal rio) has a similar intel rig and she has similar results, we can't play with a I can't tell which screen causes this, the TID or DDD but one of them being on is killing the FPS. the front seat remains high fps in either WCS state. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We're seeing the same now. Thanks for all of the reports. Note that we didn't change anything that should cause this, so we'll have to dig deep and fast. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey11 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 We're seeing the same now. Thanks for all of the reports. Note that we didn't change anything that should cause this, so we'll have to dig deep and fast. No, but you did tweak the VDI and TID repeater up front got better visuals no? In the RIO seat, the game is "seeing" for displays from three RIO pit compared to the 2 up front. I was getting huge frame time increases looking down at the pilot master test twitch (looking rearward) so maybe something about "seeing" multiple displays is causing the performance hit? Between that and the new lighting... My YT Channel (DCS World, War Thunder and World of Warships) Too Many Modules to List --Unapologetically In Love With the F-14-- Anytime Baby! -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 F-14 RIO fps Feb 2020 patch I believe the recent patch has caused a drop in fps for f-14 RIOs, it's fine when the plane is cold, but when you begin turning on systems, the fps drops to 5-10 fps. I noticed the drop starting when I turn on the datalink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) I believe the recent patch has caused a drop in fps for f-14 RIOs, it's fine when the plane is cold, but when you begin turning on systems, the fps drops to 5-10 fps. I noticed the drop starting when I turn on the datalink. Edit. After reading previous comments on the ride screen turning on, it would make sense as the TiD usually warms up when I get around to turning on datalink. Edited February 16, 2020 by WelshZeCorgi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisedByWolves Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The nice thing about heatblur is they are always on top of sorting things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkickef Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) We're seeing the same now. Thanks for all of the reports. Note that we didn't change anything that should cause this, so we'll have to dig deep and fast. I feel your pain. Also seeing huge frame drops on the ground at AlDhafra airbase (VR) from the front seat. Anything before and after 11 o clock and 1o'clock is a slideshow. If it helps, I lost all nav but the standby compass on a mission and switched off all the displays. When I landed, everything seemed fine. So maybe it's something with the displays that has broken. Edited February 16, 2020 by Tinkickef System spec: i9 9900K, Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 RAM, Corsair M.2 NVMe 1Tb Boot SSD. Seagate 1Tb Hybrid mass storage SSD. ASUS RTX2080TI Dual OC, Thermaltake Flo Riing 360mm water pumper, EVGA 850G3 PSU. HP Reverb, TM Warthog, Crosswind pedals, Buttkicker Gamer 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 16, 2020 ED Team Share Posted February 16, 2020 Heatblur are investigating thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouky1991 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Not sure if it helps but pausing in RIO seat encreases the fps back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Anyone who is up for it; feel free to test this file. Replace the one in your Mods/Aircraft/F-14B/Shapes/ folder (don't forget to backup!). Note: none of your cockpit lights will work properly with this modification. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng7wnpguvkmregx/F14B_Cockpit.rar?dl=0 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajarov Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Anyone who is up for it; feel free to test this file. Replace the one in your Mods/Aircraft/F-14B/Shapes/ folder (don't forget to backup!). Note: none of your cockpit lights will work properly with this modification. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng7wnpguvkmregx/F14B_Cockpit.rar?dl=0 sadly. It doesn´t work. I got 10-17 fps with the 2.5.6 edm. I got 30 fps with this edm. Turning off the AN/AWG-9 I got 92 fps :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 sadly. It doesn´t work. I got 10-17 fps with the 2.5.6 edm. I got 30 fps with this edm. Turning off the AN/AWG-9 I got 92 fps Thank you - we're seeing the same but wanted to make sure. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShermanZA Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) So I did another test. In the editor, I used the failures page and enabled the "DDD: Total" failure. The moment the DDD died in game, my frame rate returned to normal. To duplicate, Set the player aircraft as a tomcat with the failure "DDD: Total" enabled. Before clicking "FLY", Jump into the RIO seat, then click fly. The Framerate should see the current drop until the DDD dies. At that moment, the frame rate will return to normal. I hope that helps a bit. Edit: Looks like "DDD: Total" only disables the display while the radar can still function and track targets. Perhaps a rendering issue? Edited February 16, 2020 by ShermanZA additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRSHADO Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 So I did another test. In the editor, I used the failures page and enabled the "DDD: Total" failure. The moment the DDD died in game, my frame rate returned to normal. To duplicate, Set the player aircraft as a tomcat with the failure "DDD: Total" enabled. Before clicking "FLY", Jump into the RIO seat, then click fly. The Framerate should see the current drop until the DDD dies. At that moment, the frame rate will return to normal. I hope that helps a bit. Edit: Looks like "DDD: Total" only disables the display while the radar can still function and track targets. Perhaps a rendering issue? I gotta say, whether or not the DDD turns out to be the problem, that was pure genius! i7-8700K / 64GB RAM / ASUS Strix GTX 1080 Ti / (Win 10 Pro) / Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffdude Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I gotta say, whether or not the DDD turns out to be the problem, that was pure genius! Agreed great troubleshooting there! thanks for your contribution! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaic Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Is the mission file produced post-patch? Some people are reporting good FPS if they create a new mission, but older missions from before the patch are experiencing FPS drops. i7 - 9700k | EVGA 1080Ti | 32 DDR4 RAM | 750w PS | TM Warthog HOTAS/X-55 | Track IR 5 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShermanZA Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Is the mission file produced post-patch? Some people are reporting good FPS if they create a new mission, but older missions from before the patch are experiencing FPS drops. I created some new missions mimicking the quick start missions and pre-2.5.6 missions i have made. The improvement was negligible. When the DDD dies, the frame rate roughly doubles every time, regardless of mission file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_UK Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 note if your in the back seat switching the WCS switch to the OFF position my framerates jump from 15 back to 40 in the RIft S. Clearly it is something with the TID/DDI --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCS & BMS F14B | AV-8B | F15E | F18C | F16C | F5 | F86 | A10C | JF17 | Viggen |Mirage 2000 | F1 | L-39 | C101 | Mig15 | Mig21 | Mig29 | SU27 | SU33 | F15C | AH64 | MI8 | Mi24 | Huey | KA50 | Gazelle | P47 | P51 | BF109 | FW190A/D | Spitfire | Mossie | CA | Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | Channel | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai Liquid Cooled ROG 690 13700K @ 5.9Ghz | RTX3090 FTW Ultra | 64GB DDR4 3600 MHz | 2x2TB SSD m2 Samsung 980/990 | Pimax Crystal/Reverb G2 | MFG Crosswinds | Virpil T50/CM3 | Winwing & Cougar MFD's | Buddyfox UFC | Winwing TOP & CP | Jetseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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