imacken Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have updated the water file (for the clear water versions) with the suggestions from @CaptYosi's Post DCS Shaders 2.5.6.47224 (IC Pass) DCS Shaders 2.5.6.47224 (Clear Water) DCS Shaders 2.5.6.47224 (IC Pass & Clear Water) I can't get IC Pass to work with Mustang's Shadow mod Hope this helps! OK, I am now officially confused! I see now what you mean about the water. I didn't notice in my quick testing before as I was only looking at the sea, which looks OK. however, I get transparent rivers etc. What I am confused about is that how does my water get affected if I am not installing the mod's water file? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 yep life is a mystery :) i suspect there is some other variable set in another file that is passed to water fx ... i just dont know where it is! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfan86 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 What SS setting have you got in the SteamVR setting? I have mine set to 199% in the steam vr setting for DCS. PD in dcs set to 1.0. System: Ryzen 5900x, G.Skill 3600 32GB, MSI 4090 suprim liquid X, samsung odyssey+ headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Anyone else getting cloud glitches over water? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bog9y Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have mine set to 199% in the steam vr setting for DCS. PD in dcs set to 1.0. You got 199% and 6x MSAA? with a 2070 Super. Which VR headset have you got because there is no way I could run this with a 2080 super and my Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 One odd thing with this shader fix and the one found here: The first time I load a mission DCS starts and run. But when I just restart the same mission invariably it crashes the game. Constantly. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfan86 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 You got 199% and 6x MSAA? with a 2070 Super. Which VR headset have you got because there is no way I could run this with a 2080 super and my Reverb Samsung odyssey +. I have also tweaked dcs graphics settings which may be aiding my higher FPS/ frame times. Ill try to get a screenshot of my settings so you can try to replicate them. System: Ryzen 5900x, G.Skill 3600 32GB, MSI 4090 suprim liquid X, samsung odyssey+ headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovivan Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Anyone else getting cloud glitches over water? Yes, i have same problem. with water on hight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptile92 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 It can be controlled from _HMD.hlsl setting ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS, default is 4x. I posted a comparison sceenshot on my site here: http://www.kegetys.fi/dcs-shaders-perf-mod-update/ (it looks even better in the headset) Is #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 8 the good syntax? I can't see anything in DCS log when activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear.is.flying Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Is #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 8 the good syntax? I can't see anything in DCS log when activated. If I change the _HMD.hsls file, do I need to re-compile the shaders (delete fxo and metashader2 folders?) Intel Core i7-8700K @ 5.0 GHz // Nvidia GTX 1080Ti // 32 GB DDR4 RAM // 1 TB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Is #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 8 the good syntax? I can't see anything in DCS log when activated. I don't think so. If what you're after is 8x, you need to use the value 4 - #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 4 // Albedo texture supersampling. 0=off, 1=2x, 2=4x, 3=6x, 4=8x Edited April 21, 2020 by Hippo System spec: Intel i9 13900KF @ stock, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 If I change the _HMD.hsls file, do I need to re-compile the shaders (delete fxo and metashader2 folders?) I don't think so. The only thing I've ever changed is the masksize, and that did not require it. System spec: Intel i9 13900KF @ stock, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Shaders mod for better VR performance (experimental) Is #define ENABLE_DIFFUSE_SS 8 the good syntax? I can't see anything in DCS log when activated. With this can we disable msaa? R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 With this can we disable msaa? Unfortunately - no. If only... From the OP: Another new setting is supersampling for the albedo (diffuse) textures for objects. This is a very performance-cheap way to get improved clarity especially for the cockpit labels and stuff. So instead of having to supersample the entire rendered scene to get more sharpness, it will sample the diffuse texture multiple times. With this I was able to reduce the pixel density a lot without getting a blurry cockpit, which in turn allowed me to turn on 4xMSAA and everything looks better overall with improved performance. System spec: Intel i9 13900KF @ stock, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Unfortunately - no. If only... From the OP: thanks about the msaa mask instead...if i understand corretly it is applied only to the defined mask? correct? R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 yep, from memory only a small area within the mask SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quekel Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 so what is the recommended PD or SS with MSAA 4x and Diffuse 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bog9y Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Ehm, what is this diffuse setting thing? and will it improve VR performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 look at post 1, yes and no SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 so what is the recommended PD or SS with MSAA 4x and Diffuse 8? PD is an in game setting I always set it at 1, SS is set in SteamVR and is graphics card dependent mine is currently set at 108% which leads to good results for me on my hardware... i'm using MSSA 2x and Diffuse 4 at the moment and thats the problem with your question the answer is very heavily hardware dependent, so you may have to fiddle SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERacing Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 FYI! I am using the IC Pass Clear Water, latest version that was linked and am failing IC. The only change I made was the mask size to .550 for my O+. If I deactivate the mod, everything else is working fine. Intel i7 9700k, 64GB DDR4 (Corsair), Gigabyte Z390 Master, RTX 2080 Ti AMP 11gb, 500GB Sabrent Rocket (System), 1TB XPG Gammix S11 Pro M.2 (DCS), Windows 11 64-bit Pro, Samsung 49" 4K CRG9 Monitor (5120x1440), Samsung Odyssey Plus, TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas, Various streamdecks, button boxes, Logitech Pro Rudder Pedals, Corsair K95 Platinum, Iron Claw mouse. DCS OB, F-14B Tomcat, F-18C Hornet, F-16C Viper, A-10C Warthog, F-5 Tiger II, AV-8B Harrier, P-51D Mustang, FC3, Super Carrier Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas, (3) Cougar MFD's, Logitech Pro Rudder Pedals, (2) Stream Decks, (1) Stream Deck XL, (1) Stream Deck Mini, Misc Button Boxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) FYI! I am using the IC Pass Clear Water, latest version that was linked and am failing IC. The only change I made was the mask size to .550 for my O+. If I deactivate the mod, everything else is working fine. don't know what to tell you i am using the same mod, try turning shadows off , and then restarting ... i saw this when i tried using mustangs shadows mod... Edited April 22, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Yes, i have same problem. with water on hight Me too. Trying now with optimisations on water reverted to default. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfan86 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Here are my settings in the attached photos System: Ryzen 5900x, G.Skill 3600 32GB, MSI 4090 suprim liquid X, samsung odyssey+ headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Here are my settings in the attached photos in your nvidia settings, why are you using antialiasing at enhance application settings? Set it to default and let the application handle it; that should decrease the workload a bit. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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