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Old 10-24-2018, 08:39 AM   #1
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Default New Fulcrum PFM is very susceptible to PIO and excessive bounce.

New Fulcrum A PFM is very susceptible to PIO and excessive bounce on landing.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:03 AM   #2
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Be aware of slat behavior, deploy at,roughly 10 degrees AoA but stay on until 7 degrees. Keep approach speed over the fence 300kpm and no less than 250kmh at touchdown
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:44 AM   #3
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Slats are automatically controlled. There is no pilot directed slat deployment. Perhaps you meant flaps. I deploy FlapsDown at 400 and FlapsLanding at 330, and TD with 270 IAS. But now Mig-29 bounces a lot, PITCH is extremely sensitive and prone to PIO. I adjusted my Pitch axis curve to 45 from 25, and it is still very sensitive.

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Old 10-24-2018, 10:05 AM   #4
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use trim on landing... i use thumb rule of having trim nose up in approach so that distance number on hud equals my touch down. Then do not exceed AOA 11 at touch down and watch your variometer not exceeding 5m/s.
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No I meant slats, they automatically deploy at a larger AOA than they automatically retract, i think it’s about 10 and 7 degrees respectively. However with landing gear deployed I believe slats are always down.

As Vatikus said less than 5 m/s and less than 11 AOA on touchdown, there’s a thread around here that has a video of a real mig-29 pilot landing the DCS PFM as part of ED’s testing, you’lol find it in one of the big threads of this sub forum lately

Edit: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=222228&page=3

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Old 10-24-2018, 01:45 PM   #6
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Looks like some of this behavior may be corrected with today's patch.
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:14 PM   #7
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The Mig-29 has some things in common to the Mig-21 in terms of the Flight control design. One of the thing to watch out for is the Feel Unit. If this light is on, and since we can't have the real live feed back pilots have, the controls will be more sensitive.

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Be aware of slat behavior, deploy at,roughly 10 degrees AoA but stay on until 7 degrees. Keep approach speed over the fence 300kpm and no less than 250kmh at touchdown
I believe they deploy at 7-8 and retract at 5 degrees.
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I dunno. I think the pitch dampener sim code is a bit wonky.
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I believe they deploy at 7-8 and retract at 5 degrees.
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