Luigi Gorgonzola Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 8-82, p. 22, third paragraph: "Among them were TACAN AN/ARN-153(V) radio navigation system manufactured by Collins ProLine II, ADF-462 radio compass and GPS receiver." I'm slightly confused - AN/ARN-153(V), ADF-462 and ProLine II are all products by Rockwell Collins, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 8-82, p. 23, last paragraph: "Czech pilots flew the route with a total length of 5042 km from Vodochody to Mazar-i-Sharif through Košice, Lviv (Sknilov), Kiev (Juliani), Donetsk, Krasnodar, Makhachkala, Krasnovodsk, Ashkhabad, Chardjou and Tashkent." Sknilov -> Sknyliv (if it is UKLL) Juliani -> Zhuliany (if it is UKKK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 8-82, p. 24, second paragraph: "Former military advisor to the deputy chief of the school, V.I. Ablazov, wrote to DRA Air Force commander Mir Gausuddin about this proposal, remembering once looking at a passing caravan of nomads: 'Your children are being born listening to TV noise, unable to speak, they already know how to turn on the lights and tape recorder, twitch a car wheel. When they grow up, they do not have problems to release one control knob and take hold of another. Our children break away from the donkey or camel tail, from the mother hem and you want to put them right into the modern airplane cockpit? Take your time and do not rush'." Seemed to be more sensible if Gasuddin wrote to Ablazov. (Irreversibly confused now by trying to understand airwar.ru... :helpsmilie:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 8-82, p. 23, last paragraph: "Czech pilots flew the route with a total length of 5042 km from Vodochody to Mazar-i-Sharif through Košice, Lviv (Sknilov), Kiev (Juliani), Donetsk, Krasnodar, Makhachkala, Krasnovodsk, Ashkhabad, Chardjou and Tashkent." Sknilov -> Sknyliv (if it is UKLL) Juliani -> Zhuliany (if it is UKKK) Depends on language used: Russian: Sknilov and Zhulyany or Zhuliany, both are ok. Ukrainian: Sknyliv or Zhuliany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 8-82, p. 24, second paragraph: "Former military advisor to the deputy chief of the school, V.I. Ablazov, wrote to DRA Air Force commander Mir Gausuddin about this proposal, remembering once looking at a passing caravan of nomads: 'Your children are being born listening to TV noise, unable to speak, they already know how to turn on the lights and tape recorder, twitch a car wheel. When they grow up, they do not have problems to release one control knob and take hold of another. Our children break away from the donkey or camel tail, from the mother hem and you want to put them right into the modern airplane cockpit? Take your time and do not rush'." Seemed to be more sensible if Gasuddin wrote to Ablazov. (Irreversibly confused now by trying to understand airwar.ru... :helpsmilie:) Good point. I tried to rephrase it to make more clear. "Former military advisor to the deputy chief of the school, V.I. Ablazov, wrote (probably in his memoirs), that the DRA Air Force commander Mir Gausuddin, looking at a passing caravan of nomads, remembered this proposal and said: 'Your children are being born listening to TV noise, unable to speak, they already know how to turn on the lights and tape recorder, twitch a car wheel. When they grow up, they do not have problems to release one control knob and take hold of another. Our children break away from the donkey or camel tail, from the mother hem and you want to put them right into the modern airplane cockpit? Take your time and do not rush'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Depends on language used: Russian: Sknilov and Zhulyany or Zhuliany, both are ok. Ukrainian: Sknyliv or Zhuliany. Oops, you're right. I wasn't very carfeul, obviously, and just tool the ukrainian names. Transscription 4tl... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Good point. I tried to rephrase it to make more clear. "Former military advisor to the deputy chief of the school, V.I. Ablazov, wrote (probably in his memoirs), that the DRA Air Force commander Mir Gausuddin, looking at a passing caravan of nomads, remembered this proposal and said: 'Your children are being born listening to TV noise, unable to speak, they already know how to turn on the lights and tape recorder, twitch a car wheel. When they grow up, they do not have problems to release one control knob and take hold of another. Our children break away from the donkey or camel tail, from the mother hem and you want to put them right into the modern airplane cockpit? Take your time and do not rush'." Wow, yeah! That one is great, thank you very much! :) :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Question for Page 57: For emergency flap extension it is necessary to move the emergency flap extension valve lever, located on the right panel in the front or rear cockpits, all the way back. (Why mention this specific Valve, all others should not moved all the way back!?) (after mention the Flap valve it continues with Landing gear monitoring?) Landing gear extension is monitored by corresponding lights and mechanical pointers. In case of emergency landing gear extension, the gear doors are kept open and the U/C DOORS OUT (gear doors are opened) indicator light remains on. Question for Page 60 (8-82.pdf): It is about aircraft controls, the arrows pointing only to the trimmers though? Edited November 3, 2015 by EagleEye Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Question for Page 57: For emergency flap extension it is necessary to move the emergency flap extension valve lever, located on the right panel in the front or rear cockpits, all the way back. (Why mention this specific Valve, all others should not moved all the way back!?). The correct emergency procedure to extend the flaps is to move the emergency flap extension valve lever all the way back. I think there is nothing wrong and the text statement is clear. Why should all the other emergency levers pulled back in a case that only affects the flaps? Question for Page 57: (after mention the Flap valve it continues with Landing gear monitoring?) Landing gear extension is monitored by corresponding lights and mechanical pointers. In case of emergency landing gear extension, the gear doors are kept open and the U/C DOORS OUT (gear doors are opened) indicator light remains on. In this case the text transition is very rough and should be reworked. In particular, there is a lack of context to the previous writing. I think the whole section "EMERGENCY HYDRAULIC SYSTEM" is not dealt with in sufficient detail in this manual. Edited November 4, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 ED manual, page 166 To perform missed approach procedure from altitudes higher than 50 m, pilot must: by not changing gliding pitch, increase engine RPM to the takeoff value by moving throttle lever all the way forward; not allowing speed less than 210 km/h, stop descending; retract gear; at speed of 230—250 km/h start climbing; at altitude of 50—70 m retract gear first at 25°, then completely, perform another landing approach. The last sentence should read: at altitude of 50—70 m retract flaps first at 25°, then completely, perform another landing approach. Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) ED manual, page 167 Figure. Circle pattern flight. 1. Н = 20 m. V= 250 km/h. – retract landing gear. 2. Н = 50 – 70 m. V = 280 km/h. – retract flaps. 3. V = 300 km/h. n1= 100 %. 4. Н = 300 m. V = 350 km/h. roll =200 - turn entry at downwind leg. 5. Н = 600 m. V = 350 km/h. Course= Coursedownwind leg + SA. 6. Н = 600 m. V = 350 km/h. abeam of the RSBN beacon. Beacon bearing = 2700 (900) PPD =5,5 – 6 km. 7. Abeam of the runway threshold, n1= 80 %. V= 300 km/h. – retract gears. 8. Н = 600 m. V = 300 km/h. Beacon bearing = 2400 (1200), roll =300 – third turn entry. 9. n1= 85 %. V = 280 km/h. retract flaps at 250, beginning of glide with Vy = 4 – 5 m/s. 10. Н = 420 – 400 m. V = 280 km/h. Roll =300 - fourth turn entry. 11. Н = 330 – 320 m. – fourth turn exit, retract flaps at 440. 12. Н = 260 m. V = 260 km/h. – fly over outer NDB. 13. Н= 60 – 80 m. V = 230 km/h. – fly over inner NDB. "retract" has to be changed to "extend". Edited November 8, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 8-81, p. 18, first paragraph (KT-04): "Before takeoff, the KT-04, installed on a trolley, was attached to the winch cable with a special grip. During takeoff, the distance between the tug and the target was 100 m." I found http://flak11.de/FlakGS-Ziele.htm which claims 800 m between tug and target. However, these are LV/LSK values and may differ from WWS figures. Is there a chance to have this clarified? (However, 100 m seems quite close to me) I'm not sure either. From http://l-39.cz/KT-04_popis.html : Start Terč na startovacím podvozku se na VPD umístil za letoun L-39V. Při startu mělo vlečné lano délku asi 100 až 150 m. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 8-82, p. 22, third paragraph: "Among them were TACAN AN/ARN-153(V) radio navigation system manufactured by Collins ProLine II, ADF-462 radio compass and GPS receiver." I'm slightly confused - AN/ARN-153(V), ADF-462 and ProLine II are all products by Rockwell Collins, right? Correct - fixed. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Here is the current updated version of pages 8-101. Please let us know if you find any errors or odd-sounding sentences. Edited December 5, 2015 by derelor 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeLKMT Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) I really doubt it's 800m. It's said that the target undercarriage was tuned not to drift more than one meter per 100m of cable length. On 800m length, such precision would be impossible. Old aviation magazine I have (1978) is mentioning the same measurements, roughly 120m. I think the info on l-39.cz actually comes from that magazine article, but I would trust that site as the author certainly knows what he's doing. Edited November 8, 2015 by GeorgeLKMT ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) ED manual, page 177 «NAVIG» (NAVIGATION) MODE The «НАВИГАЦИЯ» (Navigation) mode is a primary RSBN-5S («Iskra-K») mode. Heading of the airplane is read on RMI’s internal scale against pointer with circle.Neue Bitmap.bmp Heading of the airplane is always read at the uppermost position, under the upside-down white triangle, at the inner scale of the RMI. The pointer with the circle is fully independent from the aircraft heading and its sharp end shows the BEARING to the by channel selected RSBN-station. Edited November 11, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ED manual, page 177 [ATTACH]127001[/ATTACH] Heading of the airplane is always read at the uppermost position, under the upside-down white triangle, at the inner scale of the RMI. The pointer with the circle is fully independent from the aircraft heading and it´s sharp end shows the BEARING to the by channel selected RSBN-station. Yes, you are completely right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) ED manual, page 177 In the «NAVIG» mode, flight with required azimuth can be performed. To flight from RSBN beacon: using course knob set heading equal to required azimuth; while flying from the beacon the distance on PPD-2 is increasing. To flight towards RSBN beacon: using course knob set heading opposite (180°) to required azimuth ; while flying towards beacon the distance on PPD-2 is decreasing. In my opinion the green and blue marked sentences have to be swapped out. Edited November 11, 2015 by Lino_Germany Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ED manual, page 177 In my opinion the green and blue marked sentences have to be swapped out. I think the manual is correct, at least the green part. :D It seems logical that when you're flying from the station you have the heading equal to the azimuth. I'm not sure about the vice versa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 As I understand it... Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I think manual is correct. Misunderstanding comes from understanding what is azimuth. Azimuth is a vector FROM reference point (RSBN) to any point in space. I modified you figure and then everything is in correspondance with manual. Edited November 12, 2015 by Zhivuchiy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lino_Germany Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Thank you, Zhivuchiy, for your clarification. Maybe this fact needs to be better developed and explained in the manual. Kind regards, Lino_Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Agree. It would be nice if Derelor could add a small definition of Azimuth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wouldn't in this case radial be more appropriate than azimuth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhivuchiy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wouldn't in this case radial be more appropriate than azimuth? Probably, but I prefer if someone more experienced (probably pilot) could comment on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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