Why the urgency to release modules?

1) In pre-order you get -20% off the price.

2) the full price will be there at least a year, so you are not getting it at same price in 6-12 months.

3) you get to participate the development, discuss, test and play it. Every update can be small Christmas.

4) you can have a life and you want to spend the few valuable moments to learn new module, and receiving new capabilities in updates makes it very easy to learn new just released feature.

Sorry, I meant "dumb" if one would complain on both occasions. That is, complaining if stuff geqts released too quickly or too late. That is dumb

As far as paying for something not finish, it's not dumb, although I don't get it myself. However I do not think it is dumb.

And, this is not pointed at you, but why the flying **** is everybody here getting so ****ing defensive when any kind of opened discussion is attempted?

Are you all like that in real life? A colleague enters your office and ask "hey uhm, do you know why X person did Y project like this? I'm not sure I get it"

"Well if you don't like it just go cry somewhere else".

"OK thx, good talk"

Jesus christ.

You can all forget I asked anything. You would think a community where the software is relatively expensive would be more opened to discussions and debates

You would think a community where the software is relatively expensive would be more opened to discussions and debates

Expensive? Seriously? In my opinion DCS World in it's entirety is one of the best software/gaming/flight sim bargains of all time. Bar none.

1) In pre-order you get -20% off the price.

2) the full price will be there at least a year, so you are not getting it at same price in 6-12 months.

3) you get to participate the development, discuss, test and play it. Every update can be small Christmas.

4) you can have a life and you want to spend the few valuable moments to learn new module, and receiving new capabilities in updates makes it very easy to learn new just released feature.

right I mean pre release is not something ED created . but you have to take a step back and look at the past release. Again we all love what ED does but it's also important to call them out when they do something you don't agree with.

the F-16 is subpar release quality then other ED product they released before and the question is why and do they need to look at alternative source of funding like skins or ...

I am taking part of Pre-Release so following your logic why don't I get to voice an opinion and you do :)

Expensive? Seriously? In my opinion DCS World in it's entirety is one of the best software/gaming/flight sim bargains of all time. Bar none.

I would really like to read how you came up to that reasoning.

DCS is free, yes. But, you need a joystick to play. Fortnite doesn't.

Then, I doubt most people just go with the default free module. Each module is the price of a game, on its own.

So... How is it a bargain? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I really don't understand how you arrived to that conclusion

Fortnite. Okay. Whatevs. I think that's the "game" that my 17 year old nephew wasted over $1200 on buying V-Bucks. Wow that was a good gaming deal.

Fortnite. Okay. Whatevs. I think that's the "game" that my 17 year old nephew wasted over $1200 on buying V-Bucks. Wow that was a good gaming deal.

that is called bad parenting :p

Fortnite. Okay. Whatevs. I think that's the "game" that my 17 year old nephew wasted over $1200 on buying V-Bucks. Wow that was a good gaming deal.

Haha how did he do that?!

Fortnite. Okay. Whatevs. I think that's the "game" that my 17 year old nephew wasted over $1200 on buying V-Bucks. Wow that was a good gaming deal.

He needs a cheaper hobby, like cocaine or exotic racecars.

I kind of understand, why there is EA and I do accept it and also do see the benefits of it.

But looking in the DCS-Shop I wonder, if all of those EA-modules are going to be finished one day...

Id suggest, that EA should set a standard, which level a EA-module should have to be released and also give more specific info, what still is missing in the module and what can be expected to come in the future.

Also Id say, that there should be a date given, where the module can be consideres finished (like 95+%). And if its EA, my understanding would be, that it should be a bit cheaper. At least if there is no given date in the forseeable future (1year??), when we can consider the module to be finished.

Right now, its kinda buy a EA module at the full price and hope, that its finished some day.

After all, we pay MUCH money for every module. The ordinary PC-game does not cost that much and after one year can be had for a fraction of the initial price. So I do think, that we also do have a right to get a close to finished product.

For the current Viper-Situation I think, ED had a reason for the very early release. I hope its not the money, since quoting one post from above, the rubberband would be streched quite a bit now with all those open EA-modules. If money is the reason, maybe ED should think about a different sales-strategy.

Sorry to bring this up, but Id be willing to pay a reasonable monthly fee to fly DCS with some extra content.

Since there is no such system, Ill now by the F-5, that I did not plan to buy at all, to support ED.

But for that, ED hear me out:

Do your job and finish all the modules you've started. Dont let yourself be distracted by the people bitching 98% is not enough, but listen to the people, that complain, that 60% really is not enough!

Added to post above, I case someone was doubting me...:smilewink:

Added to post above, I case someone was doubting me...:smilewink:

Off topic will bag the F-5 when on sale cap convinced me :D

It is simple... they release it so early to use us as beta testers......

It is simple... they release it so early to use us as beta testers......

It is an open beta so yes if you are using the OB version you are a beta tester. :music_whistling:

I am using the release version, but I feel anywas as a beta tester....

Expensive? Seriously? In my opinion DCS World in it's entirety is one of the best software/gaming/flight sim bargains of all time. Bar none.

Amen brother. I might also add, if you suspect it's "too early" for you to purchase or enjoy, then simply choose not to buy it and read what others write about it here for a few days. Then you can make an educated decision on whether or not to purchase. It's really pretty simple. I realized it was an early release when I bought it and pretty much knew it wouldn't all be there this time. Can you imagine how much work goes into producing one of these modules? I'm pretty sure they rely on us to beta test them early on. That's ok with me.

Agree with that.

That why i am not buying EA module. I prefer finished project

Not him, but:

I would really like to read how you came up to that reasoning.

As of 2013, the "Wet" hourly rate for an F-16C was $22,514 USD :pilotfly: