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Old 06-04-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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Default deflection shooting with F-86

Just want to see if others have the same experience:

When I practice deflection shooting in the F-86, the lead computing gunsight seems consistently optimistic. I always need to have the reticle well above the target to score hits. Does the lead computing gunsight work as it should?

P.S. Of course I am also setting target wingspan correctly.
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Old 06-04-2016, 05:32 PM   #2
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How many gs are you pulling during the lead. The gunsight is radar guided but only to a certain point. Similar to the 23mm on the l39za where there is actually a g limit. I find if I'm pulling more than 3-4 gs in the fight I won't bother with even pulling the trigger. Try unloading the aircraft before firing and setting yourself up properly before hand to get the best possible really aspect shot.

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Old 06-04-2016, 08:03 PM   #3
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Hi Gav.
I've never had any luck with the gun sight in F86, its always under leading targets, even from dead level 6 shots go low, really needs fixing.
And the mech cage sight is miles off, sight is always pointing well above bullet stream.
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:04 PM   #4
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Try unloading the aircraft before firing and setting yourself up properly
I'm set up about as properly as you can get on a turning target.

Again, all I'm asking is if others have also noticed that the reticle needs to be above the target, not on it, when deflection shooting. Thanks!

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Hi Gav.
I've never had any luck with the gun sight in F86, its always under leading targets, even from dead level 6 shots go low, really needs fixing.
And the mech cage sight is miles off, sight is always pointing well above bullet stream.
Glad to know it is not just me who sees this!
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Old 06-04-2016, 08:14 PM   #5
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Occasionally I notice the same thing. I need to slightly adjust the pipper from ideal to get consistent hits.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:12 PM   #6
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In the gunnery tutorial mission, the drone MiG flies as perfectly for tutorial purposes as possible. Wide circle, not pulling many Gs, no drastic speed changes. And yet, good luck with following instructions and trying to hit it at anything above point blank ranges. I'd say there's some room for simulation code improvement over here.
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:55 AM   #7
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The sight used to be fine, and I think there's a couple of posts/threads about it changing not that long ago, so it probably got broken in a patch.
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Old 06-05-2016, 09:25 PM   #8
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Do you have a trk file available. There are a lot of things to prep for so maybe you left one out

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Old 10-11-2016, 11:33 PM   #9
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Just tested with the latest NTTR. The gunsight still doesn't show enough lead. If you put the sight right on the Mig-15 you shoot underneath.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:00 AM   #10
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My group has been flying the F 86 lately and we've all noticed that the gun sight is way off. You can be in a smooth, consistent and easy turn with the piper centered nicely on the enemy aircraft and you won't hit anything. You can be dead 6 or any aspect and the result is the same with any one of us. It wasn't like this in the past. Did something change? Either way, it doesn't really work.
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