bkthunder Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) Honest question, with 2.5 just released and finally a single platform to work on, is there going to be any progress on fixing and finalizing the MiG-21 in terms of FM, ASP, pilot in the cockpit, fixing cockpit instruments etc., or will it only receive a MAJOR texture updates and that's it? Thanks Edited February 2, 2018 by bkthunder turned minor into MAJOR 2 Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas_From_Hell Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Obviously they're going to update the textures and leave the module. Seriously, mate? They've literally just released an update yesterday on this very forum. It's being worked on, chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 To add to the above, I'd would not call an entire texture overhaul of exterior (complete) and interior (work in progress) of the module a "minor texture update" :) AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Hiro, could you be so kind to tell us if this cockpit light effect is under WIP? Thanks a lot for your kind replies. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkthunder Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 To add to the above, I'd would not call an entire texture overhaul of exterior (complete) and interior (work in progress) of the module a "minor texture update" :) Obviously they're going to update the textures and leave the module. Seriously, mate? They've literally just released an update yesterday on this very forum. It's being worked on, chill out. A tiny changelog of which 2 items are reportedly not working (nukes and nukes panel), my question still stands: what will be of the MiG-21? A beautifully textured 3D model, or a DCS level study sim? P.S. I "fixed" my first post ;) Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I will answer for your question bkthunder, DCS MiG-21 was, is, and will stay just nice, quite accurate 3D model.:music_whistling::thumbup: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent90 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I don't know if the Steam description wants to make me laugh or cry: [...]the MiG-21 is, by far, the most accurate and comprehensive simulation of a supersonic jet fighter to date.Key Features of the MiG-21Bis Fully modeled avionics and weapons suites – exactly as they appear and operate in the real MiG-21. detailed flight physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harle Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Evidently inablilty of setting the FM and ASP right for over 2 years is a clear sign of incompetence by the devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finger Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Yes.yes.This is very sad part of simulation of MiG-21 and big shame,if this is end of iconic MiG. This is statment,not complaint. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 As you're disparaging the FM with no details and I've not flown the '21 for a while, can you say what is currently wrong with it? There's a thread about potential issues with critical AoA and another for roll inertia, but that's it as far as I can see. The ASP does need to be redone though. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rudel- Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Gent's I can only answer for the artwork, I can't answer for the programmers. I don't/can't control their department. Work on the MiG21 cockpit is close to starting. I'm very aware of all errors related to it. Needle errors Glass PBR textures needed Changing material settings for lights Fitting cockpit to external model Change cockpit windscreen to match external https://magnitude-3.com/ https://www.facebook.com/magnitude3llc https://www.youtube.com/@magnitude_3 i9 13900K, 128GB RAM, RTX 4090, Win10Pro, 2 x 2TB SSD i9 10980XE, 128GB RAM, RTX 3090Ti, Win10 Pro, 2 x 256GB SSD, 4 x 512GB SSD RAID 0, 6 x 4TB HDD RAID 6, 9361-8i RAID Controller i7 4960X, 64GB RAM, GTX Titan X Black, Win10 Pro, 512GB PCIe SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Thanks Rudel. Really appreciate your kind replies. 1 " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKTYC_11 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 -Rudel-,it seems to me you is the only one from letherneck team who doesnt left MIG to die in errors :( Thank you for your work, but graphics is not enough for MIG fans to feel them happy ... 1 Куплю модули : СУ-7 , СУ-9 , СУ-11,Миг-23,Миг-27 ,Ту-22М3,Ту-95,Ми-24,AH-64,F-16 ,F-4 Phantom,модуль-карту современной западной Европы I-7 4790k (4.4GHz), GTX980 4GB , Z97, 16Gb DDR3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Guys, nobody has left MiG-21 to die. We have pointed that out a number of times in the past few months. Work is being done subsequently on new modules and MiG-21bis. Also, Dolphin responded not so long ago to the flares issue thread. The fact that Devs are less responsive happens because they are working around the clock on our content. 1 AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dugong Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 To add to the above, I'd would not call an entire texture overhaul of exterior (complete) and interior (work in progress) of the module a "minor texture update" :) I wouldn't call what amounts to the bare minimum to be allowed to continue to sell the module in 2.5 'a major update' There is a growing discontent, and your latest patch has further broken the radar guided missiles, the cockpit lighting, the ASP, and the nuke doesn't actually appear to be fixed. 1 step forward, 2 back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harle Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) -Rudel-, it seems like you are the only one doing one's job on the Mig. Your visuals have always been perfectly done. So it's the work results of the the staff responsible for the Mig's systems (especially ASP) that we've been waiting for since the very release. Edited February 3, 2018 by Harle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKTYC_11 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Also, Dolphin responded not so long ago to the flares issue thread. Yeah, really? Im also respond in that thread today with problem of suddenly disapearing flares again! Come and look Куплю модули : СУ-7 , СУ-9 , СУ-11,Миг-23,Миг-27 ,Ту-22М3,Ту-95,Ми-24,AH-64,F-16 ,F-4 Phantom,модуль-карту современной западной Европы I-7 4790k (4.4GHz), GTX980 4GB , Z97, 16Gb DDR3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkthunder Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Gent's I can only answer for the artwork, I can't answer for the programmers. I don't/can't control their department. Work on the MiG21 cockpit is close to starting. I'm very aware of all errors related to it. Needle errors Glass PBR textures needed Changing material settings for lights Fitting cockpit to external model Change cockpit windscreen to match external Rudel, as other have said, you seem to be the only one working on this module. I appreciate your efforts and I have to say that textures have always been top notch in the MiG-21, unfortunately it's the other parts that are missing. It seems to me like you're working on this on your own and there is no coordination with the rest of the team who simply doesn't want or isn't able to fix the long standing issues. It's a real shame, because an icon of aviation such as the MiG-21 deserves better than this, and it would be better to release it to the public to be modded, or let other 3rd parties to another MiG-21 at DCS level. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 To add to the above, I'd would not call an entire texture overhaul of exterior (complete) and interior (work in progress) of the module a "minor texture update" :) Speaking of textures, Croatia 2014 skin is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rudel- Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Works on my side :/ Try the file I attached. Put it in the Croatia - 2014 livery folder description.lua 1 https://magnitude-3.com/ https://www.facebook.com/magnitude3llc https://www.youtube.com/@magnitude_3 i9 13900K, 128GB RAM, RTX 4090, Win10Pro, 2 x 2TB SSD i9 10980XE, 128GB RAM, RTX 3090Ti, Win10 Pro, 2 x 256GB SSD, 4 x 512GB SSD RAID 0, 6 x 4TB HDD RAID 6, 9361-8i RAID Controller i7 4960X, 64GB RAM, GTX Titan X Black, Win10 Pro, 512GB PCIe SSD, 2 x 256GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Please don't forget the RWR. I can live without every other planned overhauls but playing with that implementation of RWR is a torture to me. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Thanks Rudel. That fixed the skin. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Try the file I attached. Put it in the Croatia - 2014 livery folder Fixed, thank you. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asla36 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Please don't forget the RWR. I can live without every other planned overhauls but playing with that implementation of RWR is a torture to me. Yes, a properly modeled SPO-10 would be a joy to use! It is such an interesting system, because you can pretty much get the same info out of it as the SPO-15. However that requires a good and experienced operator, it would be an awesome system to get a feel for! Oh well, gotta hope for the best. And hope that when ED's MiG-23 get's released, we'll get a properly implemented SPO-10. :) DCS: MiG-23 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Make it happen, and take my money! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thanks for the update M3. Im really looking forward to the new textures. Any chance of a more maintained, cleaned and polished interior? Factory fresh? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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