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Old 03-19-2017, 07:34 AM   #71
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I understand it to mean there is an IR source on the back of the missile, which is there to enable the operator to see it. The guidance is then provided manually by the operator's joystick, which uses the wires to send the guidance instructions to the missile's control surfaces.

So it's IR for seeing, and wires for steering.
Your conclusion is correct, but afaik the IR flare of the missile is not for the operator to see it, but for the control system. The operator only has to keep the reticle on the target and the system then generates steers the missile to match with the reticle. The operator does not directly steer the missile directly, but only tells the system where he wants the missile to go.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:00 AM   #72
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I understand it to mean there is an IR source on the back of the missile, which is there to enable the operator to see it. The guidance is then provided manually by the operator's joystick, which uses the wires to send the guidance instructions to the missile's control surfaces.

So it's IR for seeing, and wires for steering.

No, most certain that the IR light is tracked by the missile guidance system.
The gunner do not steer the missile but holds the sight systems center on the target.
The tracking system follows the missile with help of the IR lamp and sends steering commands via the wires, making the missile fly along the sight line.
For more info, google 'SACLOS missile'.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:34 AM   #73
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Did the Gazelle work in the same way? Ask because you dont have there any options like in the Bo-105 to bother around with the IR System or Harmonisation.
Which way did Bo-105 measurement the Distance to a Target?
Seems it is not euipped with a Range Finder like the Gazelle, over the Sight possible?
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:37 AM   #74
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Your conclusion is correct, but afaik the IR flare of the missile is not for the operator to see it, but for the control system. The operator only has to keep the reticle on the target and the system then generates steers the missile to match with the reticle. The operator does not directly steer the missile directly, but only tells the system where he wants the missile to go.


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No, most certain that the IR light is tracked by the missile guidance system.
The gunner do not steer the missile but holds the sight systems center on the target.
The tracking system follows the missile with help of the IR lamp and sends steering commands via the wires, making the missile fly along the sight line.
For more info, google 'SACLOS missile'.
Ah I see the distinction. It is a guidance device, but applied automatically by a guidance system as long as the cross hairs are trained on the target by the operator.

Thanks for the clarification.
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I know its an old thread, but this is the variation I am looking forward to.
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