Maverick96 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Hi guys, I need a notebook due to the work and I was thinking to buy a notebook that could support also vr with dcs. So, I have seen this hp omen 15 with that specification : Intel® Core™ I7-8750H (2,2 GHz - 9 MB L3) > 4.1 Intel turbo bost HDD: 1000 GB - SSD: 512 GB - RAM: 32 GB Display: 15,6'' WLED Full HD - WiFi IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Bluetooth 5.0 - Windows 10 Home 64 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070, 8 GB Do you think it could be good? my doubts were only for the cpu, but with the turbo it arrives at 4.1 ghz Thanks (I know laptop isn't the best for simulation , but for now i could use only it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Boosts to 5G: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-predator-helios-700-gaming-laptop,6272.html Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 This laptop is a monster ,but also very expensive for me , the omen i have seen is on sale for the moment, infact also for the price i was interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 What price range are you looking it? Have you looked at the Razer line? hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) My range is about 2000 euro max, in fact this omen 15 on sale costs 1770 euro, but the original price is 2400 euro. About the razer I did not know it Edited August 10, 2019 by Maverick96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 My range is about 2000 euro max, in fact this omen 15 on sale costs 1770 euro, but the original price is 2400 euro. About the razer I did not know it It may fight into the 2K Euro mark. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 It will run the lower end headsets in DCS this year. I used to run a cv1 with my old laptop, i doubt i could run a reverb with yours. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiumR Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I have an asus rog G701 that runs at 45 FPS at 1.4 PD with an OG odyssey. Got it refurbished on amazon for about 2k US. Should be cheaper now... it’s been a while since I bought it. Specs in sig :D Edit: That’s with MSAA x2 ASUS ROG G701VI-XS72K 17.3" - i7 7820HK - GTX 1080 8GB - 32 GB 2666mhz - 512 GB SSD - Win10 Pro 64-Bit - T̶r̶a̶c̶k̶I̶R̶5̶ - Samsung Odyssey HMD!! (Amazing!!) - X56 Rhino HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Your Asus is interesting, and I saw that the cpu base is of 2.9 ght to 3.9 Ghz with turbo. My doubts were only for the cpu, if with the turbo to 4.1 ghz could I have some problems or if however could work good also with vr, also because I think that the 2070 vga is good. So, maybe I will see better in this day the best solution ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 The big ? is, how long will it Turbo before heat forces it to downclock every now and then. One thing is almost sure, it won’t run at full Turbo forever. In addition, the GPU adds a lot of Heat too, so make your assumptions how long it takes to have it heatloaded. That is the real performance peak. Testing it would be great before buying if you don’t want unpleasant surprises. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Yes, in fact this was my main doubt, how long the cpu can resist at the temperature... And I'm agree with you that the turbo maybe could not work ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiumR Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Your Asus is interesting, and I saw that the cpu base is of 2.9 ght to 3.9 Ghz with turbo. My doubts were only for the cpu, if with the turbo to 4.1 ghz could I have some problems or if however could work good also with vr, also because I think that the 2070 vga is good. So, maybe I will see better in this day the best solution ;) It runs around 4.5Ghz when playing dcs. Idk if it supposed to run that high but it does. I’ve not overclocked it. No cooling problems either but the fans are loud!! But I removed the headphones from my odyssey and use my own anyway so I don’t hear them :) I’d love to build another rig instead of a laptop but I live on a sailboat and a tower would just take up too much room. I’m pretty happy with my setup though... and I can carry it anywhere in a backpack. ASUS ROG G701VI-XS72K 17.3" - i7 7820HK - GTX 1080 8GB - 32 GB 2666mhz - 512 GB SSD - Win10 Pro 64-Bit - T̶r̶a̶c̶k̶I̶R̶5̶ - Samsung Odyssey HMD!! (Amazing!!) - X56 Rhino HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 The big ? is, how long will it Turbo before heat forces it to downclock every now and then. One thing is almost sure, it won’t run at full Turbo forever. In addition, the GPU adds a lot of Heat too, so make your assumptions how long it takes to have it heatloaded. That is the real performance peak. Testing it would be great before buying if you don’t want unpleasant surprises. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Yup this was the major issue with my old 4790k. Eventually it would overheat on dcs. It also has absurd cooling for a laptop, but eventually heat would win, iirc 30 min or so os what it took. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I have a Dell I5 7577 gaming laptop that doing great in vr. Processor i5-7300HQ @2.5ghz, 2496mhz 4 cores GPU Gtx1060 6g max-Q Ram 16g Storage: All two are SSDs VR headset: Samsung Odyssey plus I am amazed how this laptop is doing with the O+. I do not get the 45fps that is generally expected but dcs is interestingly playable and enjoyable with the 22 - 35 fps I get. Somethings I get low like 19fps and the system does not quit. I have never had a shutdown from using it with VR. I put off VR for a long time because I had this notion my laptop specs could never run vr in dcs but I was wrong. It has been smooth and a little of glitches. However I am single-player most times. At that, the rig does well is certain single-player campaign loaded with aircraft at the airbase. Texture high Terrain texture high Water medium MSAA 2x Shadow low Cockpit readability in all the modules I have is just amazing. I see the speed and altitude gauges in the F-14(a module I struggled with cockpit readability) a whole lot better in vr than in 2d screen. I would have to zoom in to see where the handles are in gauges on a laptop screen for the Tomcat. Crystal clear in VR. Point is that some of this new laptops could pull surprises. The Reverb headset, I do not have so not sure about that, but the O+ have been doing very well on my rig. I have been fortunate in having a good time so far and I hope it remain so because I have been so spoiler by vr now. A revert to flat screen would be tough. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Yup this was the major issue with my old 4790k. Eventually it would overheat on dcs. It also has absurd cooling for a laptop, but eventually heat would win, iirc 30 min or so os what it took. Over time the heat kills your Caps and all those nice little devices on the PCB. There are some that may cool better and need longer to be heat loaded, eventually they will all struggle and cook the interior. Been there with 3 devices, 2 were explicitly gamer laptops, Asus & Dell/Alienware. Not again for me. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 So, I see that there are a lot of different opinions about ahaha, becouse i understand that the main problem is the cpu and the heat, that could shout down the laptop. Instead what do you think about a mini pc gaming like this, could it support vr and the Sim in a good way? Case FRACTAL DESIGN NODE 304 Mini ITX CPU CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G quad-core con grafica Vega (3,7 GHz-4,2 GHz/6 MB CACHE/AM4) Ram 16gb Vga RADEON™ RX 580 8 GB – HDMI, DP – DX® 12 G 2 x ssd 500 and 240 gb Power supply 550 w Cooler CPU Corsair H55 Hydro All is about 1000 euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) much better idea, couple it it with a 240er AIO and its way better than a laptop tho I would choose other components, but the small box idea will carry you further than any laptop ever can ITX-Ryzen board 2x16GB RAM Ryzen 6 core chip GPU that fits your wallet a nice case a 240er AIO 1x NVMe 500GB, better 1TB good PSU DONE *if you are a Road Warrior in Hotels, dont carry the screen, they have modern TV's..just use those and your VR Edited August 12, 2019 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Yes, I think this is a good solution for my '' problem'' Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Give us feedback once you ordered the parts etc... We love PC-p()rn Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick96 Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 Certly, when I'll take all, I'll do a review ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Yeah, the only reason I was using a laptop in the first place was due to space restrictions and the fact I was traveling alot. I considered an ITX form factor for a replacment as space is at a premium for me, but decided that it had too many drawbacks compared to a regular desktop case (not being able to fit certain GFX cards, harder to cool etc) and I just found/made the space. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky146 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Biggest problem with the really high end laptops is the GPU is often soldered into the heat sink as is the CPU slot. Heat management as we know is the issue. I have a Scan.co.uk made 3XS 17.3 Carbon extreme laptop. 4K screen to output to large 4K monitors, 8700 CPU and 1080 GPU. Love it and outstanding gaming rig, but the power block is the size of a real house brick and the machine weighs 4.5kg!!! Worst bit is to upgrade to 2080 GPU means replacing the chassis as it’s hard wired in. Still considering it as I can swap everything else over and sell it on. I didn’t know this when I bought it soca little annoyed! Amazing with the Rift S though. Clevo P775TM1-G laptop with 9900K and RTX2080. Airliner pilot by day and keen simmer on days off. Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D0rmicum Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Hi Maverick Not sure if I'm too late but I had the same thoughts as you and ended up with a Mini ITX case from Lian Li pc-q38/ and had a few "issues" to think about but at the end it turned out to be working very well. Just space is very limited and I had some issues with the GPU (only 2 slots high possible) and although it told me that a 240 AiO fits without problem that does just apply to some specific models as height (radiator together with the fans) was an issue again. After starting with pure air cooling one year later I installed a water cooling to OC the CPU to 4.9GHz. Modules and maps: all of them :doh: Specs: ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-I, Intel i7-8086K@4.9GHz, 32GB Corsair Vengance RAM, Nvidia RTX 2080 FE, 2x1 TB Samsung EVO 970 M.2, WIN10 64bit, HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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