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1) What is the $50 panel addon? I dont understand its use.

The panel addon device can connect one or several metallic surfaces, such as thin aluminum sheet or metallic contact paper, and sense when finger contact is made with the surface. The surface is placed approximately where the real-world instrument panels and switch stations of the aircraft would be. Using this addon you have the option to use the pushbutton on the finger device or touch your finger to the panel to activate a mouse click.

 

) How long will a battery charge last? I know you supply with 3 additional ones, but I am concerned about having to change them too often.

Current battery life is approximately 10 hours with 20% usage.

 

 

3) The sensor is an IR on the headset? Similar to the Leap Motion? In this case I have a concern as to how it will not loose track of my hands when I turn my head or have a hard to reach switch.

I am not sure I understand your concern. When you turn your head, but keep your hand still, you will lose sight of the curser because it is no longer in your field of view, just as you would in real life. You can only see your hand when it is within your field of view. My go to test switch is the DECS switch on the AV8, It’s on the rear bulkhead of the cockpit. You have to turn almost all way around in your seat to see it. Once you see it, now you must extend your finger within your field of view to see the curser on the DECS switch.

 

4) To be honest $175 is too much for me. I imagine the challenges and expenses in the tech involved, but I would not pay more than $100 for what it promises. Just being honest, but I know we live in a world were some spend $1300 on a gpu or a phone.

I can appreciate your view on the price point. I had originally thought I would be able to offer PointCTRL at a much lower price, unfortunately, production cost kept adding up.

 

Thanks for the questions

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It’s nice to see someone run with this idea. Mounting the camera to the HMD is a great idea. The biggest issue I had is the fact that without seeing them it’s hard to tell where my hands are. Check out the free camera software from this post as it is very good and will allow you to switch back and forth between the mouse and finger input.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=195576

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The panel addon device can connect one or several metallic surfaces, such as thin aluminum sheet or metallic contact paper, and sense when finger contact is made with the surface. The surface is placed approximately where the real-world instrument panels and switch stations of the aircraft would be. Using this addon you have the option to use the pushbutton on the finger device or touch your finger to the panel to activate a mouse click.

Miles

 

 

This sounds a very interesting way of interacting with the cockpit, but I'm wondering how this will actually work. Does it mean to get full fuctionality of the cockpit you would need at least 3 of these - Left, Centre, Right?

 

 

Or can you just use one of the panels to select any side?

 

 

I understand that this is an optional extra and the finger senses will work on their own, but would be interested in seeing this additonal option in action.

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What does the camera that mounts to your VR device look like?

 

Right now I have a leap motion mounted, but I don't really use it. Hoping it's near the same size so I can use the bracket.

 

Assuming it's usb so I can use the usb cable that the leap uses.

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Same here but the leap uses a usb3 cable but I would have to rerun the cable anyway

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Short Video

 

Its 0400 in the morning, but I said I would get a short video out, and I am going away with the wife for a few days. Its short and crappy, but it gives you an Idea how things work.

 

https://youtu.be/wMQqQN1So4M

 

I will answer the unanswered forum questions as soon as I get some free time.

 

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thx for the video, looks great

just my opinion: i would accept a very small cable too so there is no need for a battery

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Looks very promising, many thanks for posting the vid and have a good trip!

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Looking good

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That's pretty ingenious and exactly what's missing from our current VR experience. Definitively interested in one of those!

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PointCTRL questions/answers

 

Thanks for the questions, I am back home and will try to answer them.

 

Looking good! Can the one camera operate two pointers?

Yes, both fingers are tracked when they are both in the field of view of the camera, however only one is recognized as the mouse pointer. I do plan to implement one and two hand gesture recognition. An example would be moving both fingers simultaneously from bottom center to top center of the field of view to eject. If you are using one finger, and then bring the second finger into the field of view, control will only shift to the second finger after the first finger leaves the of view.

 

Hi Miles,It looks awesome, how about a left-hand version?

Cordite is correct, it comes with both left and right-hand finger devices. PointCTRL is designed for both devices to worn at the same time.

 

holy shit, that is great!!! Im definitely interested!

one question, is possible to have two trackers, one below and one above the desk, so the desk is not masking it?

The camera mounts to your HMD, so you need line of sight to your finger. I like your work station/gaming area, looks great and very neat. I am in the process of moving mine, so I am temporarily set up in the dining room. It’s a good thing I have a very understanding wife.

 

thx for the video, looks great

just my opinion: i would accept a very small cable too so there is no need for a battery

I would like some input on this from you guys. I can make a micro USB version without a battery and reduce the price by 15 tor 20 USD. Thoughts?

 

It’s nice to see someone run with this idea. Mounting the camera to the HMD is a great idea. The biggest issue I had is the fact that without seeing them it’s hard to tell where my hands are. Check out the free camera software from this post as it is very good and will allow you to switch back and forth between the mouse and finger input. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=195576

Interesting read. Reference knowing where your hands are, after a very short period of getting used to PointCTRL you find yourself just pointing at the control you want to interact with and the mouse pointer is right where you would expect it to be. A quick fine adjustment is then usually required before pressing the button.

 

When are you taking orders for this and when you do can you let me know? The worst thing for me about flying in VR is having to reach for a mouse to flip a switch.

I am hoping to get production prototypes out to community contributors for testing and evaluation by October and production units by December 1st.

 

 

I think that about covers it for now. I will try and make another video with both left and right hand production prototype controllers soon.

Thanks again for the interest and comments.

Miles


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I would like some input on this from you guys. I can make a micro USB version without a battery and reduce the price by 15 tor 20 USD. Thoughts?

 

Two additional USB cables and those hanging down from your hands? That would be too much disturbing for me.

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Two additional USB cables and those hanging down from your hands? That would be too much disturbing for me.

 

 

 

 

Yup. Prefer the battery.

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Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The finger devices would still be wireless. Ii would only be the HMD camera that had a Micro USB cable.

 

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Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The finger devices would still be wireless. Ii would only be the HMD camera that had a Micro USB cable.

 

Miles

 

 

Miles,

That's how I understood it. But would still prefer battery option. USB wouldn't be the that bad, I'd just have to wire-tie it to the video cable. Vive has a USB port on the HMD, as I recall. Rift, you'd have to run it along the video cable.

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