BitMaster Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508/4 see yourself :) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konovalov Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Link: 7700k vs. 1700x ( AMD wins almost any gametest now, WOW ) It's all good news for pc users. Intel is rumoured to be "rushing" out the door coffee lake with a i5 using 6 real cores and guessing i7 version with 6 real and 12 threads. It used to be so easy the last 6-7 years regarding CPU decisions but now not so. Guessing these coffee lake will come with another 5-10% IPC gain. Looks like Intel chose not to cut prices but rather get Coffee Lake out at least 6 months earlier than originally planned. I guess cutting prices for them kind of cheapens their premium branding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 26, 2017 by Konovalov Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I dont get it. Previous reviews all showed the 1700/1800x all getting beaten out by the 7700k. This shows otherwise. Why? Im dying for someone to do a direct DCS comparison. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 I dont get it. Previous reviews all showed the 1700/1800x all getting beaten out by the 7700k. This shows otherwise. Why? Im dying for someone to do a direct DCS comparison. Rage, I am puzzled too but I cant say I dislike it. My 7700k doesnt get slower just because AMD is pulling even or even surpassing it ( at default clocks ). Yes, some Hardcore DCS comparison is needed indeed, to clarify things. Time is ripe and those new UEFI's seem to have fixed some as well as their power profile. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Im pleased too. I want an AMD win. Its just with conflicting data its hard to know whats what. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapsu Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I dont get it. Previous reviews all showed the 1700/1800x all getting beaten out by the 7700k. This shows otherwise. Why? Maybe because they are using GTX970 which is causing GPU bottleneck to show any real difference between the CPUs, especially in higher resolutions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS Finland - Finnish DCS community SF Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Maybe some of them are fixed :ermm: to serve their goals. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Maybe because they are using GTX970 which is causing GPU bottleneck to show any real difference between the CPUs, especially in higher resolutions. This. The card only becomes the bottleneck at 1440p, and even then most of the titles chosen are probably optimised for multithreaded CPUs. (Except for Farcry4). Still waiting for a real world DCS test. Edited April 26, 2017 by OnlyforDCS Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastyBaiter Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The thing you have to keep in mind is that the $250 R5-1600X is massively more powerful than the $350 I7-7700k, but only in applications that use all those threads. New games, especially DX12 and Vulcan titles, love more threads and so Ryzen does well in those. However, DCS is effectively single threaded and so the fact that an R5-1600X is around 30-40% more powerful than an I7-7700k is simply not relevant. The 7700k's 25% single thread performance advantage is all that matters to DCS. I fully expect for Ryzen to soundly beat Intel's current offerings once more DX12 and Vulcan titles are used in benchmarking. But the question here is about DCS, I'm very curious as to how well an overlocked Ryzen does. I don't expect DCS to change much anytime soon, so if a Ryzen CPU grants acceptable performance in DCS, even if inferior to the 7700k, then its non-DCS peformance makes it a clear winner in my eyes. But if it doesn't run DCS any better than my locked I5-4690, then I don't see myself buying it as my I5 can't handle certain areas of the Caucuses map. My RX480 running at 1440p is heavily CPU bottlenecked on that map due to tree count and some of the airfields. System specs: i5-10600k (4.9 GHz), RX 6950XT, 32GB DDR4 3200, NVMe SSD, Reverb G2, WinWing Super Libra/Taurus, CH Pro Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I dont get it. Previous reviews all showed the 1700/1800x all getting beaten out by the 7700k. This shows otherwise. Why? Im dying for someone to do a direct DCS comparison. because new platform teething issues. AMD has been having latency and memory issues with early BIOS. Expect it to gradually match the 7700K as new BIOSes get released (it inst there yet in DX11 but close) 1700X has double the threads for the same price. If it holds on its own with DX11 with a full Ghz disadvantage, then when its firing on all cylinders on DX12 the 7700K will be left in the dust. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I dont get it. Previous reviews all showed the 1700/1800x all getting beaten out by the 7700k. This shows otherwise. Why? Im dying for someone to do a direct DCS comparison.I don't know either, and I like that change. But anyway it's not only how many FPS more or less there are, also how much more does 7700k cost compared to Ryzen. Now it's even better, but even before it was good enough for the price IMO. AMD CPU is to be considered, definitely, for my next rig :D . I also wait for a DCS test. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEvil Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 how much more does 7700k cost compared to Ryzen. It costs less, not more ))) STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappen Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Really? In Swden it's only the 1800x thats more expansive than the 7700K... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEvil Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-00R/komponentit--prosessorit STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-00R/komponentit--prosessorit That says 395€ 7700K, and 369€ 1700 if I'm not mistaken. Not as much as I expected, but still cheaper though prices change really quickly and from place to place. Here they are priced really close, 345 the 7700K and 356 the 1700. Well, I guess it's more a question of what the prices are at the moment you buy. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEvil Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 That says 395€ 7700K, and 369€ 1700 if I'm not mistaken. Not as much as I expected, but still cheaper though prices change really quickly and from place to place. Here they are priced really close, 345 the 7700K and 356 the 1700. Well, I guess it's more a question of what the prices are at the moment you buy. S! We're talking about 1700x version... AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, AM4, 3.4 GHz, 8-core 439.00 € STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappen Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 He compared ryzen 7 (1700/1800x). That was what he stated and I commented on. There is cheaper and more expansive depending on witch model you choose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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