=4c=Nikola Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Off-topic Edited December 19, 2018 by =4c=Nikola Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kula66 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Remember that the screen is square, but the area it displays is a cone ... the base is stretched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 If you look at it by imagining you plane is in the middle of the bottom of the display, then the TA is correct relative to an imaginary line extending from that point to the target. BUT, I believe from my understanding of US radar attack displays that this is indeed wrong. This is a B-scope, not a PPI. I don't own the F/A-18, but I assume it shows the TA as what it is regardless of the bearing of the target? As Kula says, the display is distorted, so the TA should be relative to the vertical grid, which clearly it isn't. VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Weapons manual describes the symbol as a vector indicating target relative heading. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) In which case it's correct, assuming that other F-15 you're targeting is in fact on a reciprocal heading to you. The attack display and HUD are deliberately showing you different things. CNATRA P-825, which I believe refers largely to the Hornet, makes a big point that the attack display shows TA not heading. So I guess Eagle and Hornet are different. Edited December 16, 2018 by VC VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 No, they say TA for TA and heading for heading. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It's heading relative to yours. So reciprocal will be straight down, same heading will be straight up, etc. The reason this is not the same as TA is because of the wonderful ways B-scope distorts. VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Reciprocal means in the opposite direction to you, not towards you. If you're heading 0 and the target is heading 180, then the vector will point straight down irrespective of whether the target is ahead coming at you, or passing by 20 miles to your right. That's the information that vector is giving you (I think, based on my understanding). B-scope makes no inherent assumptions about vectors, it only means the bearing scale is distorted so that bearing lines are vertical. What vector is shown is simply a choice on top of that. It's just a line that's giving you some extra information. If the vector is pointing down a bearing line it doesn't mean the target is coming towards you on that line, it's showing the target heading is 180 degrees off yours in an abstract way. Again, based on my understanding so far, as I'm still learning about this. But that's how I see it now with the information I have. Edited December 16, 2018 by VC VC =X51= Squadron is recruiting! X51 website: https://x51squadron.com/ Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/d9JtFY4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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