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Old 02-03-2019, 12:41 PM   #11
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Quick question about one of the rules



"- EWR will be active and available for both teams. The EWR for each team will be stationed at various points inside the engagement bubble and will be invincible."



Does this mean there will be no AWACS or is the wording a little off? Having no AWACS means datalink for Russian aircraft (from the EWR) but no SA for Western aircraft.
This is something that has to be tested once the 18 and 14 have DL. The intention is to provide both sides with DL. EWR was chosen first as it provides a more consistent picture since it is static. If there are issues once DL is out for the other aircraft they will be evaluated and awacs will be put in if necessary.
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Old 02-04-2019, 12:52 AM   #12
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The F-14 only gets data-link from the E-2, the F-18 cannot get DL from EWR as its not L16, also, having only EWR means Russian aircraft get data-link and have no need to verbally communicate with the EWR sites.

Western aircraft on the other hand will need to manually select the correct EWR site if there is more than one of them, then have the BRAA information given only in Russian.

If there is more than one EWR site they will spam communications to the FC3 aircraft at the same time as each other, overloading the Western Pilots with multiple BRAA calls in Russian, meaning we cannot simply 'listen' out for the calls, every call has to be read by the pilot as most of us can't understand Russian.

While Russian aircraft will face the same issue, they have the luxury of data-link and can simply turn off radio reports to their aircraft, so they don't get spammed with Russian comms but do get all the extra SA from DL.

Having AWACS instead of EWR is a simple solution to level the playing field.

Keeping with SATALs mantra of 'Pilots make events not equipment' both sides need to be fighting each other with two hands. The current set up has Western aircraft fighting with one hand tied behind their backs.
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:45 AM   #13
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Having AWACS instead of EWR is a simple solution to level the playing field.
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The intention is to provide both sides with DL. [...] If there are issues once DL is out for the other aircraft they will be evaluated and awacs will be put in if necessary.
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:55 AM   #14
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:07 AM   #15
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You've totally missed the point.

Eastern aircraft get to fly with DL from round 1 and Western aircraft don't get AWACS until DL gets introduced for the F-18 and F-14.

Instead we're going to get EWR in a foreign language and no DL (F-15C, M2000) from round 1.



Why not just have AWACS available for both sides from Round 1 if the intention is to add AWACS further down the line when Link16 and Link4 come online?

Seeing as the Western aircraft cannot get any DL from the EWR sites in game it doesn't make any sense not to have AWACS.
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:15 AM   #16
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Maverick, I would prefer if you join our discord to have this discussion (where it's already been asked). This thread is mainly meant for Signups.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:52 AM   #20
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Would teams have gci?
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