Strikeeagle345 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This is a respectable move being made here. This community strives for modules, but at the same time a large portion desire for completion. If it means I will fly a complete product by EA, its worth my wait. but if its complete, how can it be EA? Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniClem001 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 but if its complete, how can it be EA? Ahah good one x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker69 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Copy! No problems, take Your time for a much more complete Module. Some screenshots and videos "on line" are just amazing.. so go ahead, this is the right path. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/139168989452694/about/ ASUS ROG - TM Hotas Warthog - TM Hotas Cougar - TM F-18 Grip - Oculus Rift S - Track IR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKULA_OPTIMUS Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 YES! This is good news, this kind of things actually make me trust them, instead of continuously release incomplete products. Good move:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Following the regular development updates on social media I'm impressed at the apparent speed the module was developed at. They should take their time to polish it now. PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiddx Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 but if its complete, how can it be EA? I guess this would be called a Beta then, wouldn't it? Complete, but maybe not quite bug free. If they really try to release it without any bugs to the general public, that's a very optimistic undertaking IMO. But it probably won't matter what they call it. Early Access, Open Beta, Release, Stable etc. are pretty loose terms in DCS anyway. Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 No worries. Good call from RazBam. We're lucky to have them as a third party developer. Take all the time you need because I have my hands full with plenty of other modules I'm still learning and enjoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjacobsen Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 but if its complete, how can it be EA? Feature complete !! This means that every system is coded, but might contain some bugs not fully fixed. Normally this is called Beta. What we have seen so far (from Razbam atleast) is Alpha versions, where many systems hasn´t been coded yet. i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 12GB, 1 x 1 TB SSD, 2 x 2TB SSD2 TB, 1 x 2 TBHDD 7200 RPM, Win10 Home 64bit, Meta Quest 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varis Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks for the good news! I'm sure many fans are delighted to know that Mig-19 has (was) already submitted to ED testing/review. Sounds like it will be amazing when it rolls out of the hangar. SA-342 Ka-50 Mi-8 AJS-37 F-18 M2000C AV-8B-N/A Mig-15bis CA --- How to learn DCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 It’s for the better so it’s not a big deal to wait a few more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Won't be long guys. We don't want to release her until she is ready to be abused ;) Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Won't be long guys. We don't want to release her until she is ready to be abused ;) Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Are you sure? I think it was ED who made the decision to delay the module and not RAZBAM? :music_whistling: SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Are you sure? I think it was ED who took the decision to delay the module and not RAZBAM? :music_whistling:It was both actually!!!! Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Take all the time needed. No rush, just go for a complete module release. This... :) New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 30, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted January 30, 2019 Are you sure? I think it was ED who made the decision to delay the module and not RAZBAM? :music_whistling: This is how internal testing works, who found something wrong doesnt matter, what matters is both ED and RAZBAM are committed to making the module as good as it deserves to be. People are wasting too much energy on who said stop first. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=37.Sqn= Mjugen Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks Wags and ED for imposing stronger QC. Guys like Razbam need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarlerus Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 It was both actually!!!! :thumbup: Nice to see that ED forums is actually the place with nicest reactions to this news! All other venues I've read reactions in have been, let's say, a bit more toxic ^^ Looking forward to the module, once it's done! :D Jarl at YouTube DCS Service Span and Wishlist Spreadsheet Forum post for discussion of above spreadsheet Retro Electro Playlist on Spotify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracoLlasa Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks Wags and ED for imposing stronger QC. Guys like Razbam need it. I think the hold was a good call it that was what was decided.. and i agree Razbam needs this type of review, but so does ED and all other partners.. What i like here is that ED and Razbam did a review and together decided there were enough little things that needed to be cleaned up before an initial release.. As much as i love new modules coming out, this just ensures they are feature complete (but not bug free) before going to early access/beta. And i think the overwhelming support just to this thread has been great, very little complaining, so many people thankful and patiently waiting... i had to make sure i was still in the right place :-D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i5 8600K OC @ 5.0GHz w/ Corsair H100i Liquid Cooler| MSI GTX 1080 OC Edition | 32GB DDR4 3600 | EVO 960 NVMe SSD | WD Black NVMe SSD Win10 X64 | TrackIR 5 | HTC Vive | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and Cougar MFDs | Saitek Combat Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birko Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Happy to see that with the speed the MiG-19 has been developed with and the late changes from feedback, that the care is being taken to consolidate that development before release. Am very much looking forward to hopping into an aircraft feature-complete and relatively bug free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajarov Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Wise decision. I hope that they could use some time to check the radar too. Sent from my MiG-29S (9-13S) using Tapatalk :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varis Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 As much as i love new modules coming out, this just ensures they are feature complete (but not bug free) before going to early access/beta. Not 100% sure what you are after here - feature complete doesn't seem to be a requirement for the release of the module, F-18 and F-14 (lacking A variant) are not released feature complete and neither was C-101. What ED listed sounds like primarily a first impressions thing - they don't want modules to appear half-finished and "a little" more polish was required in some aspects to not lose face. What I read from this is ED raising the bar for all third parties and guaranteeing future quality of modules, so it's not specifically directed at Razbam. A few folks think that Razbam was just submitting crap below the common standards this time, I guess the impressions are somewhat subjective. The hit to reputation would probably have been much greater for Razbam than ED, had the module already released. Either way I don't really care. What matters is the vendor's commitment to support already released stuff the customers have paid for. Early access is a nice thing but what really matter are the years of enjoyment you can get from a nearly finished and well supported module. SA-342 Ka-50 Mi-8 AJS-37 F-18 M2000C AV-8B-N/A Mig-15bis CA --- How to learn DCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 31, 2019 Author ED Team Share Posted January 31, 2019 We shouldnt get into comparing modules too much, the F/A-18C was released as it was as we thought people would be excited to have it, and enjoy it as it developed, the MiG-19 isnt as complex, so probably it will be more feature complete when it drops, that said it wasnt missing features that slowed it up, but some nagging issues that needed to be polished up before release. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) i dont think announcements should be left open to replies anyone with a crappy 2 bit post gets to bump and bury actual announcements of value leave the discussions for the discussion sections Edited January 31, 2019 by probad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 We shouldnt get into comparing modules too much, the F/A-18C was released as it was as we thought people would be excited to have it, and enjoy it as it developed, the MiG-19 isnt as complex, so probably it will be more feature complete when it drops, that said it wasnt missing features that slowed it up, but some nagging issues that needed to be polished up before release. Agreed, I was really happy we got the F-18 early as it allowed us to practice our carrier traps, which alone is fun. But also learn systems as they come online, that way it is less overwhelming. People seem to buy products that are early access, fully aware of it being early access... but then complain that it isn't finished. It boggles the mind. As far as the Mig-19, good on ED and Razbam to delay it until it is fully ready since it is going to be a finished module. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 i dont think announcements should be left open to replies anyone with a crappy 2 bit post gets to bump and bury actual announcements of value leave the discussions for the discussion sections Yes I agree, for whole topics in this corner (Steam transfer too ect). Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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