[FIXED] Cockpit/Windscreen Bar

Refraction is real, but too taxing performances wise. Though, since rain drops do have sort of refraction I would like to see how taxing it is actually.

 

 

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Exactly. Displacement (the raindrop effect) is another cheat for refraction and they don't have any philosophical problem including that in the sim. We're not building Focke Wulfs here, we're simulating what they look like. (And sound like and behave like, but none of those are affected in any way by the 3D models.) We're free to fudge the model in any way that helps it look closer to reality, and reducing the thickness of the windscreen frames, particularly the side and bottom, would look a lot closer to reality than what we have now. On the *interior cockpit model only*, of course.

Anyway. here's a photo of a real 190 from a museum that shows what a dramatic difference that armored glass makes in dropping the view through the windscreen.

Look at the the bulges above the machine guns, on the cowling. See how low is the right one, compared to the left one, because is seen through the armored glass?

I also have issues with the green armor glass. It's way too green. That armor glass was made by Carl ZEIS!!!!!! It's a lens. Another bug introduced by museum wrecks with wrong cockpit glass.

Is ED gonna adjust this? Just bough the product and i have to say its indeed really annoying to see.

If i'm not mistaken, then making the lower bar smaller won't be of any benefit, because you would also have to lower the hood, and then then modeling workaround fun would start...

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It doesn't appear to be flush with the hood, at least not on the interior cockpit model. But if it is you can still do it. When your POV is in the cockpit the cockpit interior, canopy, and other parts around the cockpit are a second model that replaces those areas of the external model. All they'd need to do is make the hood one of those parts that's swapped.

I think ED is not going to change this in the near future.

The sales are probably extremely satisfactory and a few dissatisfied people don't matter. I consider this plane a wonderful "what-if" and have enough other planes with proper forward vision.

Now the frame of windscreen shows to be at the right position relatively to guns' cowlings, wich are visible from cockpit view.

The "bar" is a bit big but now I find the whole is OK.

This is the Problem, the Glass is to short.

Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass).

This is the Problem, the Glass is to short.

Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass).

:thumbup:

Guys, due to my decisionfinding process of purchasing the Anton, I´ve stumbled over this threat.

To be honest, I haven´t seen any problem with that "bar" when watching the various YT-videos of Spudknocker or the GrimReapers... Nearly unbelievable that this issue fills 12 pages of threat till now. ;-)

You can see the problem once you have it. Then it's not unbelievable anymore.

This is the Problem, the Glass is to short.

Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass).

Not in my point of view - comparing cockpit view and F2 view, the bottom part of windscreen glass really seems to be at the right place now.

You find it short I think because the frame's metal cover doesn't appear in cockpit view, to make the link to cowling's hinges.

But the mesures seem to be the same in my pictures, between external and cockpit view.

The only problem is seeing the real height of windscreen's frame (thickness of "bar") from pilot's view, because no refraction, but to me … the compromize is OK.

We hear you.

 

A test.

Perfect! Can't wait. (Can't wait to be able to drop the bomb again either. ;) )

Wooaah

look good :)

Nice!

We hear you.

 

A test.

Nice Groove..

Spasibo !

Looking good - thanks!

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So to all of you who said it was impossible, thanks for the support.

+1 very cool indeed

We hear you.

 

A test.

Great thing Groove! Just curious, what is your current solution? Changing the model, or some other wizardry? :)

Thanks for the reply :)