|
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#21 |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 6,290
![]() |
![]()
lets say for discussion that youre at 35 meters in a hover and want to descend vertically. You move collective as shown over time and you periodically increase power to maintain a reducing VSI over time. The manner of moving collective is important and really takes practice. You need to observe the position outside, your ground references, and your vertical speed being reducing over time. Once youre in ground effect, start lowering collective more and relax compensation. 5 meters and lower it down even more from previous position. 3 meters even more. then lower it all the way.
__________________
AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: QLD, AUS.
Posts: 2,011
|
![]()
okay Ill ask the obvious question, why?
I mean I get regulating VSI or sink rate when descending which is what I do, but it's generally smoother regulation of collective and yes you can feel IGE build as you descend.
__________________
Control is an illusion which usually shatters at the least expected moment. Gazelle Mini-gun version is endorphins with rotors. See above. DCS Rig. ASUS X99Pro i7 5930K@4.7Ghz Ino3D RTX2080Ti@1950MHz 8*8GB DDR4@2.2GHz SSD EVGA 850W G2 Rift CV1 Windows 10Pro bu0836x and Frankensteined Cyclic Collective and Pedals. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#23 |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 6,290
![]() |
![]()
why what?
__________________
AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: QLD, AUS.
Posts: 2,011
|
![]()
Well the movement of collective VS height in the chart. Why so much?
__________________
Control is an illusion which usually shatters at the least expected moment. Gazelle Mini-gun version is endorphins with rotors. See above. DCS Rig. ASUS X99Pro i7 5930K@4.7Ghz Ino3D RTX2080Ti@1950MHz 8*8GB DDR4@2.2GHz SSD EVGA 850W G2 Rift CV1 Windows 10Pro bu0836x and Frankensteined Cyclic Collective and Pedals. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#25 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 6,290
![]() |
![]() Quote:
If in hover your % of collective is 100%, you drop down to 90% then immediately go back to 95%. This should "arrest" your descent or sink rate. But I am sure you already knew this. Like in hornet.
__________________
AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#26 | |
Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 169
|
![]() Quote:
I had the same problem, the engine RPM drops by lowering the collective. You need to rise the collective much earlier, because if you rise it to late and to fast, you lose your rotor RPM, because the engine can't keep up fast enough. Watch decent rate and RPM. --- Or much better.. a Gazelle compared with a Cow ![]() With a full loaded truck you need more time to break than with a car, you know. Last edited by Jafferson; 06-30-2018 at 02:02 PM. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#27 |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SW-Germany
Posts: 5,476
|
![]()
Even after years with the Mi-8....1 sleepy moment and down she goes when trying to touch down.
You need to constantly watch VSI, always, be gentle, be early in what you do and have confidence in what you do, sometimes she takes a second to react as assumed. Overdo anything and you ask for big trouble. When that happens, dive out the best you can or crash land while trying that and hope you can still extract troops and cargo, despite the broken bird and lost live. I consider the Mi-8 being a Milk-Truck. That assumption won't lead you wrong. DO NOT think of Ferrari's !
__________________
Asus Strix Z370-E - Intel i7-8700K@5.2G_delidded - 32GB 3200/3600MHz - Asus 1080GTX-Ti Poseidon 2050/12006- 1x 960Evo 250GB - 2x 850Pro 256GB Raid-0 - 1 x 840 Evo 250GB PageFile - 2x Seagate 2TB - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@4x180mm fans - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" WQHD Gsync 144Hz@60Hz - Oculus Rift VR - Win10Pro64 - ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#28 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,865
|
![]() Quote:
__________________
i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3466Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | 2 X Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | Fractal Design R5 Case Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Last edited by David OC; 07-10-2018 at 09:00 AM. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#29 | |
Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 446
|
![]() Quote:
instead of hovering at either end of the runway I did a landing. on the numbers. a few hours of this instead of doing missions really taught me to fly helicopters. now I do it in all the helicopters to learn them ![]()
__________________
My Rig: i7 4930k 4.5Ghz, 16GB DDR3 2400, 2x SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#30 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 720
|
![]()
Just come screaming in low to the deck, pick a point to pirouette around and then plonk yourself down. Job's a good un: https://clips.twitch.tv/DaintyMoistWaspM4xHeh
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|