Reputation System

It appears to me that you (admin) had to respond to an emergent issue, and suspending the rep system was the best rapid response available. I'm really glad that you guys act decisively when the need arises. I believe it is very important to avoid exposing people to abuse, and if the question must be an either/or I accept it may be best to continue without the system.

Ultimately, I do hope we get some kind of rep system back, and that people who had a large amount of positive rep receive something equivalent when the new system is implemented. On overclock.net there is a clear concept of when someone should provide positive rep, and when someone new didn't do so they were gently informed of the convention by admin. I know it's not as simple here, but clearer guidelines for when and why someone should rep can only be a good thing.

As someone who has needed a lot of help to learn DCS and continues to do so, I found the rep system pretty helpful. When someone made a suggestion I did look at their rep, especially if it was a suggestion that went against others or was counter-intuitive to me.

You know these pictures of North Korean generals each wearing like 35 giant medals? That's how it feels to have high reputation :D

:D

I would love a dark version of the site for sure, we will have to see how it goes when it gets upgraded.

Good to know there is hope ;)

its not only the points, you could send someone a quick short message why his post was stupid or good without resorting to a proper MSG, that might get lost if the inbox is full

maybe you can implement a post voting system instead.

if we like the post, we can vote (+), and (-) if we don't

maybe you can implement a post voting system instead.

if we like the post, we can vote (+), and (-) if we don't

Yes, I like that one.

maybe you can implement a post voting system instead.

if we like the post, we can vote (+), and (-) if we don't

+1

All I can say....Good riddance!

"+1"-only post's are cancer and there should be a rule against them. What does that really add to any discussion? Atleast with the reputation system there was a alternative to give feedback, without useless spam.

Same in mod threads, people simply saying "thx! great mod!" while it might be nice to stroke the ego of the creator that way, it is very useless in the grand sheme of things. In depth feedback will be drowned out while people scroll past countless of useless one line posts.

"+1"-only post's are cancer and there should be a rule against them. What does that now really add? Atleast with the reputation system there was a alternative to give feedback, without useless spam.

+1

Oh, wait...

QED :smartass:

I just noticed the rep system is gone...Im sorry but totally disprove this movement and think is a bad idea...I liked giving rep to people who I think deserved it, now I cant. Improve the system=YES, removing the systme=NO. A only "positive" rep option would be a good solution imho.

. A only "positive" rep option would be a good solution imho.

no sometimes you need to tell people how stupid thier post is without derailing the thread itself:music_whistling:

That was basically why they removed the rep system.

IMO the standard positive rep button with the option to write a text would do the job. Because words take more effect than just a like or dislike button, surely it's the same with the negative side.

However most of us know that disrespecting or being absolutely rude is no option at all and for those that don't want to know receive their ban/punishment. I think leaving anything out that resembles negativity is the best way to go.

For me there needs to be an option to share thoughts and opinions quickly other than using the PM system. If you don't agree with someone and want to leave constructive criticism (which doesn't resemble negativity to me) a "neutral" button allowing to share your thoughts, with another option of just liking that post, might be a solution.

He's a "veteran" here on this forum and still doesn't know how to respect others and probably did not read the rules as yet... I think he should be punished instead. I wouldn't really call him a veteran, a true veteran would respect the others. This is a place for everyone.

But sounds like you're looking at the negative part of the story. Countless the number of times I spoke to really nice people here because of the rep system.

Again, if there is a problem with the current/old system, and it's being abused by a minority, maybe you could forget the rest of the community and pay close attention to those breaking the rules.

As I said before, a warning label explaining how you must use the system and in case someone breaks the rules, you can report it (with instructions).

I am not gonna lie, there were moments here where I almost lost my mind :D And the rep system prevented me from posting something offensive. I don't want to receive warnings, nor negative reps :) Or even a ban!

This issue with the ability to comment with no visibility to anyone makes it such an easy system to abuse, [...]

If that were the case, how do you know there has been abuse of the system in the first place?

[...] especially when a new user comes in, says something that a 'veteran' user might deem as stupid, sends an abusive message via the rep system and that new user bails forever because of it. Maybe they dont know to contact a moderator, or that this isnt the normal behavior here.

So where is the difference to PMs? If someone does not know how to contact a moderator, there is no difference to me.

We need a better system, [...]

Given what one or two others said earlier, I understand that. I was just trying to comprehend the logic of the argumentation.

As I've said before, the PM system seems to be more open to abuse than the rep system ever was, but:

We have had to answer many PM's and support tickets from angry users who do not understand the system or have received abusive rep messages, often it is their first contact with DCS which is not a good start.

We need a better system, and when ED find one the team will take a look.

But surely you have enough feedback here to implement that ?

Overwhelmingly the responses are that people would like the ability to push a "+" button and have the poster see that someone appreciated the post.

If negative text comments were the issue, don't have a comment space.

(... & doing that in the first place would have been less code editing than removing the whole system...)

????

Exact.

+1

+1

[...] especially when a new user comes in, says something that a 'veteran' user might deem as stupid, sends an abusive message via the rep system and that new user bails forever because of it.

I'd like to re-iterate what was said before: How is this different from PMs?

The argument seems to be the same, except that PMs can be reported by clicking a small, non-self-describing button, and who knows if this is even available in Tapatalk that so many people seem to use nowadays (rep certainly isn't).

Not knowing the configureability of vBulletin, it seems like disabling the text-box in the rep-system would be an easy workaround. Actually, adding 'disabled="disabled"' in the right template would probably take a lot less time than reading our combined rants and ramblings. :D