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Old 07-17-2019, 09:22 AM   #751
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Igla is shot and forget, no comparison with Vikhr in A-A engagement.
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:30 AM   #752
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About R-73 in choppers. It is too expensive for a low probability A-A encounter.

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The time it takes to get IGLA aimed, locked and launched is more than I can get Vikhr locked to even a F/A-18C at sky at 3km distance and launch at it and down it..
Igla is pretty good for that. Ka-50 was a test prototype for Ka-52, maybe igla was really tested but never implemented at the beginning probably because the weapon was not ready at this moment, I mean The improved igla for this task. If you talk about the early 90’s igla then was not reliable for choppers. That’s why the did full implementation for the time on Ka-52
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:57 PM   #753
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Igla is shot and forget, no comparison with Vikhr in A-A engagement.
Oh Really, it is a shot and forget? Wow....
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:25 PM   #754
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About R-73 in choppers. It is too expensive for a low probability A-A encounter.
So it is better to leave Vikhr on base and carry IGLA just in case that there is a air threat....?

The R-73 was just too add capability, like have KA-52 carry it as it anyways had air radar for front quarter and was anyways rear designating targets for KA-50 at front and sides.

Same thing can be said why to carry bombs or S-13 rockets or even anti-ship and anti-radar missiles as main weapons are cannon and S-8 rockets.

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Igla is pretty good for that.
No, not when compared to Vikhr, Ataka and Hermes.
And from those Vikhr was easiest to use because multi functional warhead prior launch.

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Ka-50 was a test prototype for Ka-52

Wrong, KA-50 was even ordered for production before KA-52 designs were finished. The KA-50 was meant to replace Mi-24 fleet on numbers of 2000.
The KA-52 was meant to be group leader and offer capabilities from radars for target search.

The KA-50 was not prototype to make KA-52.

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maybe igla was really tested but never implemented at the beginning probably because the weapon was not ready at this moment, I mean The improved igla for this task.
If you talk about the early 90’s igla then was not reliable for choppers. That’s why the did full implementation for the time on Ka-52
Our KA-50 #25 is from 2001-2005 era, and IGLA-V was ready and in use. We are not talking about Strela-2 or first version of IGLA.
It is true that each variant has improved performance etc, but IGLA has never been bad like original Strela was.
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Old 07-17-2019, 02:24 PM   #755
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Buddy... one things is the original Igla for Manpaps, The Original Igla for Manpads improved and I was talking about the Igla that was improved to be used also for choppers... don’t think wrong because you see Igla on choppers that doesn’t mean all the Igla variants work properly in Ka-50. That issue could be a reason for delaying a specific weapon even when the avionics are ready awaiting the weapon.
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:00 PM   #756
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Anyone know where you can get the field manual for the Igla-V online?
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