Capn kamikaze Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 With all the changes to modules are the people who do instructional videos going to replace them with more up to date versions, or at least re-edit the relevant sections that are now out of date. The vids are great, but having tutorials on youtube that are in some cases more than a year out of date causes a lot of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenSim Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I've been warning people about this for a while, even Cold Start videos are going to be outdated pretty soon. "It is also true that we parted ways with Chicken after some disagreements." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn kamikaze Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Exactly, a lot of the vids are now simply wrong, and so of little to no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerador Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Well, that is to be expected. Just take every video with a fair amount of age with a pinch of salt. Baltic Dragon is working in the rest of the training tutorials anyway, so I expect a really good and in depth lesson on each of them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_1stVFW Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 It's not so much that the old videos are wrong, just incomplete. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Aurora R7 || i7K 8700K || 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s || 2TB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD || GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X || Windows 10 Pro || 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2667MHz || Virpil Warbird Base || Virpil T-50 Stick || Virpil MT-50 Throttle || Thrustmaster TPR Pedals || Oculus Rift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn kamikaze Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Some of them are now wrong in certain parts, eg how certain weapons and or sensors are set up and used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 You have a point there, but given how many people do tutorials for DCS (at that point: thanks to all of you), it's rather unlikely everyone is going to revise their videos. It is good to have a reminder for it, though, as hopefully some will do so once everything is more or less in place (as in: out of early access phase). In all other cases, take the warning that old instructional films most often had in the beginning: always refer to your latest manual, as some information may have changed since the making of this film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If only manuals were kept up-to-date... Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arturojgt Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If only manuals were kept up-to-date... I was checking and the Razban pocket guide seems outdated and the only updated manual is the chucks guide and only the one located in the mudspike web site. https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-av-8b-harrier-ii/ Sent from my Tornado IDS while on autopilot using Tapatalk Pro. Arturo "Chaco" Gonzalez Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I was checking and the Razban pocket guide seems outdated and the only updated manual is the chucks guide and only the one located in the mudspike web site. https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-av-8b-harrier-ii/ Sent from my Tornado IDS while on autopilot using Tapatalk Pro. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 As a new guy trying to learn DCS and the harrier I gotta second the notion. Its pretty frustrating watching videos, doing what they do, and then not having the same result. I've run into this with both cold start and Mavs now. And I managed to setup my own missions for landing, refueling bombing etc due to the lack of training missions. (I then found some of those in the "missions" tab). New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Hey guys I am hard at work on interactive tutorial missions, you will find updated progress if you click on the link to my FB page in the signature. Cheers! The existing training missions are under “Training” and not “Missions”, check them out. More to come soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Hi Baltic Dragon, Yes I saw your post, but as I understand it your missions are not available yet? As it is I'm kludging my way through learning the Harrier/DCS over the last month or so, and I've made good progress. The main frustration is not knowing if the existing vids and documentation is right or wrong, as well as trying to make my own very simple missions on how to learn things. I've done the "Training" missions but in some cases they are far more complex than I like (the tanking mission, which is good, but too long) And in the case of the short one, for some reason I can't find the tanker, I think I spawn under it, or ahead of it etc. So I just made my own, where I start 1 mi behind the tanker with 50% fuel on the right frequency to talk to it etc, since all I want to do is practice tanking, not worry about finding it using tacan or being off frequency as I find its much easier to break down complex tasks into a set of much simpler tasks first. Edited December 14, 2018 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varis Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 One idea could be for Razbam to organize a training event/stream while we are waiting for the fixed harrier with the updated manual. SA-342 Ka-50 Mi-8 AJS-37 F-18 M2000C AV-8B-N/A Mig-15bis CA --- How to learn DCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Hi Baltic Dragon, Yes I saw your post, but as I understand it your missions are not available yet? As it is I'm kludging my way through learning the Harrier/DCS over the last month or so, and I've made good progress. The main frustration is not knowing if the existing vids and documentation is right or wrong, as well as trying to make my own very simple missions on how to learn things. I've done the "Training" missions but in some cases they are far more complex than I like (the tanking mission, which is good, but too long) And in the case of the short one, for some reason I can't find the tanker, I think I spawn under it, or ahead of it etc. So I just made my own, where I start 1 mi behind the tanker with 50% fuel on the right frequency to talk to it etc, since all I want to do is practice tanking, not worry about finding it using tacan or being off frequency as I find its much easier to break down complex tasks into a set of much simpler tasks first. Well as you can imagine, as vids got outdated, interactive training would become so even more, hence my decision to wait with building it until we get a pretty decent state of the module. Having said that, you should get a pretty accurate set of missions with some remarks given by real world AV-8B pilots and some inside information here and there, plus it will be free with the module. The first ones out of the production line will be cold start, conventional take off, vertical take off and landing, stores management, guns and rockets plus mavericks and sidearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 All stuff I now know how to do :) Tpod is the next thing I gotta figure out. Well, and to get better at refueling. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaCH Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Maybe read the manual of the actual startup process could help? I guess is not much of an effort and maybe you can do the video yourself and update the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 This is a good idea, When the planes are complete I will make all new tutorial videos to help with the changes and new procedures Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Maybe read the manual of the actual startup process could help? I guess is not much of an effort and maybe you can do the video yourself and update the rest? If you were replying to me, I did do that. The issue turned out to be how the controls were interfacing, ive got a 4 page thread on just that here on the first page. If i were to update chucks guide or the other refs id add in a caveat about what can go wrong and how to fix it. Reading the real manual would be worthless since you can easily check that the throttle is in the cutoff position, not so with the sim. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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