Is the Tiger getting a cockpit facelift?

Is it ?

It needs one. Last I checked, there is no blue (metallic) channel. There is also no normal map. I don't believe work on the diffuse is that needed, other than removing baked shadows

Yeah, it's starting to show it's age a little bit. At least they fixed the issue with the beacons turning the cockpit into a red-themed rave.

Is it ?

Not planned atm as far as I know. ED is currently bussy with updating the Ka-50, followed by the A-10C.

Even if people spruce up the roughmet, the cockpit won't look up to par without a normal map though. I had considered making a cockpit mod for the Tiger, but when I came to realize I can't add a normal, I dropped it. That part is in ED's hands

Not sure if it really needs one.I use to love the F5, but at some point it got worse and worse and I just gave up. Seeing the history, I would say that they should ether a) fix the plane, or b) if they fixed it, not touching it again.

First things first. After we get the revamped Ka50 and A10C I guess they will take a look at other older modules, like the F5 or the Mi8.

At least they fixed the strobe light issue with all old modules...

Not sure if it really needs one.I use to love the F5, but at some point it got worse and worse and I just gave up. Seeing the history, I would say that they should ether a) fix the plane, or b) if they fixed it, not touching it again.

Hi I am interested in the module is it still broken now ?

Thanks Jamie.

Hi I am interested in the module is it still broken now ?

 

Thanks Jamie.

i'm not under the impression that it is broken, but since i don't fly her very often maybe also consider other opinions.

there are some inaccuracies with radar and rwr, but this is by no means game breaking.

the cockpit looks "ok" i would say. the newer modules look definitely better, but it's neither broken nor offending.

It works, it just doesn't look as good as the more modern modules. Plus as Kev2go has pointed out in other threads its a bit of mix-master F5.

Graphically the whole module needs a touch up. Textures in particular

It works, it just doesn't look as good as the more modern modules. Plus as Kev2go has pointed out in other threads its a bit of mix-master F5.

I know what it looks like not bothered about looks just reading Cotoi post.

After the long-awaited F16 can we stop and fix all these things? :doh:

perhaps in view of a DCS 3.0

Do you remember MAC? I hope to see upgraded graphics for all the full versions of MAC planes, and so even f-5 and korea jets.

Graphically the whole module needs a touch up. Textures in particular

If only we could have higher quality normal/AO maps for both interior and exterior, that would be great.

Diffuse and rough/met maps could easily be done by community members, even in 4K. But normal and AO require access to the max model to be rendered if i'm not mistaken.

(oh, and the radar please ;))

There isn't a DCS module that couldn't use some love, but whatever warts the DCS F-5E has, it is still my go-to DCS plane. Over time, I have flown it more and more. If the F-4E is ever released, I will surely shift my preference, as the Phantom II is my all-time favorite airplane. The F-14B and F/A-18C are absolutely amazing, but too modern for me. The 1960s/1970s jets are my favorites and the F-5E still has that analog feel while having the simplicity of early digital systems. It is easier to fly and fight in the F-5E than anything before or after it. The P-51 and F-86 are more complex in terms of engine management and the F-14 and F/A-18 are way more complex in terms of cockpit switches/MFD menus. The F-5E is right at the sweet spot between analog complexity and digital complexity. The only aircraft that might be better would be the F-15A and F-16A which would have similar analog/digital complexity, but would have the insane turn performance and thrust-to-weight of modern fighters.

Note: I fly VR about 75% of the time since getting the Rift S (previously about 50% with the original Rift), so I generally don't see the huge improvements in graphics between older and newer aircraft unless I fly with my 4K 49-inch monitor, therefore the F-5 cockpit doesn't really look all that bad to me compared to other newer cockpits.

From one the Q&A Wags did on the Speed and Angels Discord channel.

https://discord.gg/48PXc8

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From one the Q&A Wags did on the Speed and Angels Discord channel.

https://discord.gg/48PXc8

I can't really complain about that. I don't fly either of those, but I've seen videos and those cockpits are in much greater need of re-work.

If only we could have higher quality normal/AO maps for both interior and exterior, that would be great.

Diffuse and rough/met maps could easily be done by community members, even in 4K. But normal and AO require access to the max model to be rendered if i'm not mistaken.

 

(oh, and the radar please ;))

And ambient occlusion is included with the roughmet/PBR maps, as the red channel

In all honesty the F5E needs more than just a cockpit refresh of textures or lighting......

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=247412

And getting the basics right would be great too which means, being able to fly IFR with an artificial horizon that's still indicating the correct pitch attitude after e.g. a touch & go.

A F-5 that has the identical performance in a head and in a tailwind.

Despite all these shortcomings it's still the airplane I'm flying almost exclusively in DCS and I'm enjoying it a lot.:)

Since this is pure manual flying, I even doubt that the FWB F-16 will change this.

And ambient occlusion is included with the roughmet/PBR maps, as the red channel

Not for the exterior model, still using specular last time I checked.

And the unofficial roughmet patch red channel is based off the specular textures (instead of "shadows" included in the texture template) ;)

I tried updating the normals for exterior while doing a 4k retex of some swiss skins, but quickly gave up.

I just don't get it, again and again I see people complaining about the cockpit looking old. It already got an update a few months ago and it's looking great. I mean, why...

Hi I am interested in the module is it still broken now ?

 

Thanks Jamie.

sorry for late reply.

I didn't fly it for over a year now, but since the bugs were kind of big, (one of the wheels would not come down, radar controls were not working and so on) my guess is they fixed it. Also since I don't see people talking about these or any big issues, makes me guess that is indeed the case. other then that, it is a simple and fun to fly, go for it.

sorry for late reply.

 

I didn't fly it for over a year now, but since the bugs were kind of big, (one of the wheels would not come down, radar controls were not working and so on) my guess is they fixed it. Also since I don't see people talking about these or any big issues, makes me guess that is indeed the case. other then that, it is a simple and fun to fly, go for it.