ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 17, 2021 ED Team Share Posted September 17, 2021 We are still looking into this, but there is some discussion that it is working as intended for the version we have. When we know more we will let you know. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I can't believe someone really thinks a western 1980s RWR would only show search OR track radar, but not both, when every other same-era RWR does just that, where the search button let's you display both. But looking at the long bug list that has never been addressed by ED, I have pretty much given up on the F5. It will not get any improvements any more. 4 1 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=475FG= Dawger Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 15 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: We are still looking into this, but there is some discussion that it is working as intended for the version we have. When we know more we will let you know. Why not incorporate the user fix until it is proven otherwise? The fix makes it operate in accordance with other RWR's of the era. However, if the An/ALR-87 is someday proven to be the exception, it can be easily reverted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 They think the RWR would hide a threating emitter with search mode selected.. In order for an RWR to filter out tracking emitters and only display search emitters, it would first need to process and classify all the emitters it detects. So they must believe that the RWR knows there's a threat emitter tracking you, since in order to filter it out it had to process it and determine it was a tracking radar and not a search radar, but is choosing to hide that information from the pilot. On the other hand, they think having a button to hide air traffic control radars and long range search radars ("S" emitters), which would otherwise clutter the RWR scope, is the less logical usage. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefhard Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Howis the status on that one? Still under review? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLiner Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 This is low hanging fruit that would really earn a lot of good will with the community. I hope ED takes a closer look at this issue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk2174 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I can't believe this is still an issues. I'd stopped following it years ago... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Is the mod working with the current open beta? Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefhard Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 2:40 PM, Tomcatter87 said: Is the mod working with the current open beta? Yes - still working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSplayer Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 If I'm reading today's 2.8 patch changelog correctly, this mod will no longer be compliant with IC. 2 -Tinkerer, Certified F-14 and AIM-54 Nut | Discord: @dsplayer Setup: i7-8700k, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB 3066Mhz, Lots of Storage, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Modules: F-14, F/A-18, JF-17, F-16C, Mirage 2000C, FC3, F-5E, Mi-24P, AJS-37, AV-8B, A-10C II, AH-64D, MiG-21bis, F-86F, MiG-19P, P-51D, Mirage F1, L-39, C-101, SA342M, Ka-50 III, Supercarrier, F-15E Maps: Caucasus, Marianas, South Atlantic, Persian Gulf, Syria, Nevada Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimm862 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Are they seriously just never going to fix this? Didn't they say they were going to take a 2nd pass at the f-5 like just a year ago? I don't understand why they continue to ignore stuff like this. It's probably an incredibly simple fix. Considering there's a mod that fixes the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotel Tango Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Does it break IC now? If that's the case, could we please keep one thread open about the issue in the Bug report, because by the looks of it, every thread was closed while the issue remains... The F-5E in DCS is the only "Bluefor" plane with an RWR that either warns you about a radar "searching" but not firing at you, or "firing" but not searching. And it looks like a simple misunderstanding of how it should work by the dev team. 2 HRP | Derby "Wardog, launch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feverdog Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Really hope they fix this, as its the main module I'm trying to learn right now and it seems to be mad to be broke still after all this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypickle Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Maybe someone can educate me about the difference between a search radar and a track radar. When an f18 is in rws mode is that search? And when it locks you then it becomes a track radar? What is tws then? What scenarios would benefit from either rwr mode? Should i press the ‘s’ button when i get an awacs call of bogeys headed my way? i just dont know how to use that button either with or without the mod. Edited March 15, 2023 by skypickle 4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 11:07 AM, skypickle said: Maybe someone can educate me about the difference between a search radar and a track radar. When an f18 is in rws mode is that search? And when it locks you then it becomes a track radar? What is tws then? What scenarios would benefit from either rwr mode? Should i press the ‘s’ button when i get an awacs call of bogeys headed my way? i just dont know how to use that button either with or without the mod. Yes, any more that doesn't have the antenna pointed straight at you (for MSAs) is a search mode. THis includes TWS. It's Track while Scan, primary is the scan. AESA performs SWT instead, because it can. The way it should be interpreted though (the way it is NOT in the game) is that the button allows you to see surveillance radars - ie. the list of radars in your RWR database marked as 'these look for things'. In this respect, an SA-6/11/15 search radar should not be considered as a surveillance radar, since detection by it can be expected to lead to the corresponding track radar to attack in the very near future. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypickle Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 @GGTharos thank you for your explanation. But maybe you could clarify "AESA performs SWT instead, because it can." I figured out that AESA is an active electronically scanned array (AESA) Something that would be in a modern jet. But what is SWT? I understand what you said about SA 6/11/15 and that it's appearrance on the RWR after I push 'search' is a high level threat. Also, you alluded to how DCS is not what you described. Now that is confusing to me. What is DCS doing in its current revision? The sense I am getting is that I should routinely push 'search' as soon as the jet is airborne. 4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthDakotaJones Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) I think it no longer passes IC Edit: I just double checked, and it seems to pass. Edited July 9, 2023 by SouthDakotaJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303_Kermit Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 7/9/2023 at 11:28 PM, SouthDakotaJones said: I think it no longer passes IC Finally no cheaters! I love original RWR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 21 hours ago, 303_Kermit said: Finally no cheaters! I love original RWR Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. 2 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey21 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Such a shame that this is still an issue. I loved flying the F-5 with this mod, and the erroneous interpretation of the default RWR logic is all that stops me from recommending it to others. I'd really love to see this longstanding inaccuracy corrected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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