hotrod525 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Title says it all, could it be possible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Never been in use in France, no ARM missile on Mirage 2000C RDI. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZShizzam Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Never been in use in France, no ARM missile on Mirage 2000C RDI. Could it be possible IRL? Sure. But it never happened, so we won't see it in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The AGM-122A was never exported. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There was a anti-radiation missile tested on the Mirage but never implemented as far as I can find. The topic came up a lot before the module was released. I'm sure it could be implemented by Razbam but it would probably require a lot of work and be questionable in regards to real life. In my opinion, it would greatly enhance the usability of the Mirage and be a superb addition. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just NO, the Mirage needs his avionics and other parts to be finished/fixed. No need to add any fanciful/what if weapons. It's DCS, digital combat SIMULATOR. Not Ace Combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just NO, the Mirage needs his avionics and other parts to be finished/fixed. No need to add any fanciful/what if weapons. It's DCS, digital combat SIMULATOR. Not Ace Combat. Not that I don't agree with your statement but I think the days of DCS only being a combat simulator are gone. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler111 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 In a simple, polite answer.. NO ..sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 In a simple, polite answer.. NO ..sorry Thanks! :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod525 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Yes i know that DCS is a Simulator, but any customer can have whatever armement on their plane when they purchase it. Either Dassault, Airbus or Boeing (or anyother for that matter) will integrate the weapon system you want. Its not like they are going to refuse billion dollar contract for a missile / gun / bomb. Especialy when its only about adding the proper coding into the plane computer :thumbup: (Ex : Israel Mirage 3 had guns at their request, IAF Su30Mki with Litening Pod, etc.) But Okay its not happening trought official channel, i'll try to mod it on my own (for my own pleasure) Thank you for answering. Edited January 13, 2018 by hotrod525 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 But no one did integrate the Sidearm into the Mirage, so what's the point of having them in DCS?! In that case we could put every weapon on every plane, which would be pretty retarded... Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Yes i know that DCS is a Simulator, but any customer can have whatever armement on their plane when they purchase it. Either Dassault, Airbus or Boeing (or anyother for that matter) will integrate the weapon system you want. Its not like they are going to refuse billion dollar contract for a missile / gun / bomb. Especialy when its only about adding the proper coding into the plane computer :thumbup: (Ex : Israel Mirage 3 had guns at their request, IAF Su30Mki with Litening Pod, etc.) But Okay its not happening trought official channel, i'll try to mod it on my own (for my own pleasure) Thank you for answering. Adding something physically is easier than implementing "only software". Want a R-27 launcher attached to an truck? easy.... wiring for computer? easy... But to get software working.... can of worms... and cannon aint as complex as ARM missile. But sure... pay enough and world aint against you unless physics... i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 But our mirage is a French Air Force 2000C, not an export version... Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 But our mirage is a French Air Force 2000C, not an export version... Even export versions don't have the Sidearm. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes i know that DCS is a Simulator, but any customer can have whatever armement on their plane when they purchase it. Either Dassault, Airbus or Boeing (or anyother for that matter) will integrate the weapon system you want. Its not like they are going to refuse billion dollar contract for a missile / gun / bomb. Especialy when its only about adding the proper coding into the plane computer :thumbup: (Ex : Israel Mirage 3 had guns at their request, IAF Su30Mki with Litening Pod, etc.) But Okay its not happening trought official channel, i'll try to mod it on my own (for my own pleasure) Thank you for answering. Make 1 billion $ paypal donation to Razbam and I'm sure they can send you a private custom version which feature Sidearm, AGM-88 or anything you want :lol: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Make 1 billion $ paypal donation to Razbam and I'm sure they can send you a private custom version which feature Sidearm, AGM-88 or anything you want :lol: For 1 billion $ i would expect them to do a Mirage 2000-5 mk2 and Rafale instead of some unrealistic weapons screwed on our current M2000C. :D Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 For 1 billion $ i would expect them to do a Mirage 2000-5 mk2 and Rafale instead of some unrealistic weapons screwed on our current M2000C. :D Ask Dassault Systems, for 1 billion they might consider it :D Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Ask Dassault Systems, for 1 billion they might consider it :D Actually, i should spend that 1 billion on Dassault Systems for a couple Rafale and Mirage jets in real life instead of a simulation of it and have enough for some other toys. :D:joystick::pilotfly::smilewink: Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valium Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 My topic - I added something else, check this out: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=196010&page=2 Click here to see more pictures of Polish Air Force! Check also my album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeroamer Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 So then what did they French use for their ARM missile of choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Jaguars IRRC. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) So then what did they French use for their ARM missile of choice? AS37 Martel carried by Mirage IIIE or by Jaguar A The missile has been successful against Libyan SA-6 in Northern Tchad in 1986. Iraq also made great use of export version (BazAR) with Mirage F1 EQ in Iran-Iraq war, like vs Hawk SAM or early waring radar. But for export it was better known as ARMAT: http://www.ausairpower.net/alarm-armat.html The missile had 3 different seekers to choose from depending on intended target. So it wasn't well suited for target of opportunity. The missile was big, supersonic in HA and long range capable. The unusual thing is that the warhead was ejected passing by the radar antenna; so it would destroy hit. The missile's body still had the capacity to inflict damage to truck/ ship below the antenna (especially on ship). Test ship after impact In summary, the missile did work properly, but France lacked a true Wild Weasel platform like F-105G or F-4G at that time. So the mission effectiveness depended on good preparation and navigation to attack a specific emmiter. The pilot only had some needles on his instrument to tell him where the missile was locked, and not on what. So depeding on the altitude (radar horizon) and direction the pilot could only "guess". Iraqi missile story, in French but Google will help you :thumbup: https://henridewaubertdegenlis.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/les-programmes-secrets-avec-lirak-les-pilotes-temoignent/ https://henridewaubertdegenlis.wordpress.com/2017/11/09/les-programmes-secrets-avec-lirak-1977-1984-le-bazar-de-bagdad/ https://henridewaubertdegenlis.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/les-programmes-secrets-avec-lirak-1977-1984-le-bazar-de-bagdad-episode-3/ Martel/ ARMAT were withdrawn in France at the end of Jaguar A. Today Rafale can attack SAM sites (again in Libya in 2010) by riple firing fire and forget AASM (range in HA >27Nm): INS+GPS (+IR or laser) This is a general purpose missile, not dedicated SEAD weapon. Some people claim that SPECTRA (ECM suit) is accurate enough to target emmiters of opportunity, but I don't know fo sure. Anyway SPECTRA probably works as good as HTS pod on F-16, and Rafale uses L16 too. Edited January 17, 2018 by jojo Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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