Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Blackout due to G in the K-4 looks very plausible to me now. On the D-9, though, I seldom can induce it. Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornedGod Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Any word on when the g-suit might make it as an option for the pony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Any word on when the g-suit might make it as an option for the pony? Any recent updates on this? Will the G-Pants be added back or will pilot tolerances be equalized across all A/C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Any recent updates on this? Will the G-Pants be added back or will pilot tolerances be equalized across all A/C? Pilot body posture isn't the same in all aircraft, so why should g-tolerance be the same? Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted August 30, 2016 ED Team Share Posted August 30, 2016 Any recent updates on this? Will the G-Pants be added back or will pilot tolerances be equalized across all A/C? They might make it more historically accurate for the 1944 version they are working on. But equalizing would be a terrible idea... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) @Sith & Sobek I don't see why this would be a terrible idea. A pilots G tolerance on any given day is subject to such a large range of human factors that any aircraft design decisions are only comparable when talking about a pilot experiencing the exact same human performance limitations. This post indicates that the blood pressure delta in the brain for any G at an increased tilt (on the scale we're talking about for the Mustang/Kurfurst/Dora) provides negligible increased G tolerance: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2486622&postcount=49 The following from a NATO report discusses the increased G tolerance associated with elevated leg positioning, which talks of a result of either +0.4G or a negligible increase: This table from the same report samples 1000 pilots resting G tolerances: Follow up material from AIR FORCE PAMPHLET 11-419 / 17 OCTOBER 2014 / G AWARENESS FOR AIRCREW: Concusion: When taking into account all of the above data from the NATO/USAF reports, it clear that they (and the data) consider the the physical characteristics and readiness of the pilot and his ability to mitigate human factors through nutrition/conditioning/rest etc of large importance. The histogram showing the range of resting G tolerances as well as the effect on G tolerance from human factors such as fatigue and sleep deprivation are far more significant on any given day for any given pilot than small gains to be made by seat position. I believe that due to the possibility for large variances in G tolerance for any pilot (Luftwaffe or USAAF) on any day that the only reasonable solution is to give all pilots the same G tolerance. I would like to see the G-Pants for the Mustang return for historical accuracy and because there is a quantifiable increase in G tolerance and increased rapid onset protection. Edited August 30, 2016 by Cripes'A'Mighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter52 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Possibly you are right and G-suit will be returned for the Mustang. Anything to report (let slip) on this? Dogs of War Squadron Call sign "HeadHunter" P-51D /Spitfire Jockey Gigabyte EP45T-UD3LR /Q9650 3.6Ghz | 16GB DDR3 1600 RipJaws | EVGA GTX-1060 ACX3 FTW | ThrustMaster 16000m & G13 GamePad w/analog rudder stick | TurtleBeach EarForce PX22 | Track IR5 | Vizio 40" 4K TV monitor (stuck temporarily with an Acer 22" :( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadHunter52 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Updates? Quote: Originally Posted by Yo-Yo Possibly you are right and G-suit will be returned for the Mustang. Anything to report (let slip) on this? __________________ Dogs of War Squadron Call sign "HeadHunter" P-51D /Spitfire Jockey Gigabyte EP45T-UD3LR /Q9650 3.6Ghz | 16GB DDR3 1600 RipJaws | EVGA GTX-1060 ACX3 FTW | ThrustMaster 16000m & G13 GamePad w/analog rudder stick | TurtleBeach EarForce PX22 | Track IR5 | Vizio 40" 4K TV monitor (stuck temporarily with an Acer 22" :( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Any word from ED if we're finally getting our (Summer 1944) G-Pants back yet? Edited February 21, 2017 by Cripes'A'Mighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Anyone from ED even read this forum anymore? Such a shame that something used from Summer 44' onwards has been removed for "balance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The Technical Orders for the Mustang concerning G-suits are dated November and December 1944. Maybe some operational trials were done before that timepoint, but most certainly no widespread operational use. There was no way to aquire the necessary valves (eg M-2) and ducting via supply lines without a technical order and official part number. Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Mustang concerning G-suits are dated November and December 1944. Maybe some operational trials were done before that timepoint, but most certainly no widespread operational use You are correct with November. I chose "Summer '44" to provide balance between: Operational testing of G-Suits with Fighter Groups in January 1944 (1) The standardization of the Type G-3 suit in August 1944 (2) 4,100 G-3 suits being delivered to the 8th/9th/12th AF in the second half of 1944 (2) Production G-3 suits arriving in the 8th AF in October 1944 (2) Being accepted as USAAF standard equipment, with one to be issued to each pilot from November 1944 (2) In my mind the above is reason enough to re-introduce the G-suit to the P-51D in DCS. Sources: (1) War Diary of Captain Fletcher E. Adams 362FS, 357FG, 8AF USAAF (2) United States Army Aviators' Equipment, 1917-1945 [C.G. Sweeting] Edited February 27, 2017 by Cripes'A'Mighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rel4y Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I agree with you, it fits the German contemporaries. I was just thrown of by the fact you made it sound like it was standard equipment from summer 44 when 99% of all Mustangs could only be modified for it starting December 44. Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 27, 2017 ED Team Share Posted February 27, 2017 We should wait and see if it becomes an option with the new 1944 version they are working on. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CripesAMighty Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 We should wait and see if it becomes an option with the new 1944 version they are working on. Hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 27, 2017 ED Team Share Posted February 27, 2017 I believe its optional on the MiG-15, I dont see why at the very least we cant get an option. We will see how it goes. Just tone down comments like this: Anyone from ED even read this forum anymore? It doesnt help. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyOrgan Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We should wait and see if it becomes an option with the new 1944 version they are working on. I'm a bit confused by this. I hope it will be an option, but if our current P-51D is a late war (as in later than the European model) Pacific model would they not already have the standard G suit by this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyforDCS Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 We should wait and see if it becomes an option with the new 1944 version they are working on. Hey Sith, is there a thread or a post with some more info on what we can expect from that version of the Mustang? Im primarily interested on whether it will be a separate module that we would need to purchase or a free addon to those who already own the Mustang? Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 28, 2017 ED Team Share Posted February 28, 2017 No firm details, but I highly doubt it would be another module, more likely just an update of options to the current module. Hope we will hear more soon. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I admit I'd rather have all "Euro" features optional, if possible. Need to keep Pacific-spec Mustang for upcoming LN's Iwo Jima map :D. Plus, all the glorious Tom Weiss' Pacific and CBI custom skins would look awkward on an "Euro" Pony. We'll see how they're going to sort it out. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 28, 2017 ED Team Share Posted February 28, 2017 I admit I'd rather have all "Euro" features optional, if possible. Need to keep Pacific-spec Mustang for upcoming LN's Iwo Jima map :D. Plus, all the glorious Tom Weiss' Pacific and CBI custom skins would look awkward on an "Euro" Pony. We'll see how they're going to sort it out. Yeah, I am a big fan of options as well, much like the wing type on the Spitfire, or MW50 contents on the 109 and 190. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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