pchRage Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Hi all, Looking to take the plunge on the FSSB-R3 and thinking about getting the F16SGRH to go along with it instead of my THW Stick... Question 1. FSSB.. just do it and don't look back? Any regrets? Question 2. F16SGRH.. its not painted, just a "rough" resin finish... will that get all gunked-up with sweat/skin and a pita to clean? Not sure I can stomach 2x price for the painted version :noexpression: Question 3. F16SGRH.. worth it over the TMW and maybe getting the angle adapter instead? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 If you can afford it, then absolutely yes, top kit and especially if you fly the Viper in DCS....You can have as real as it gets experience using this. The additional functionality is also good, but you need to be quite au fait with that kind of software and programming to make the most of it. I use the R3 base & grip for flying the Viper and the FA18 grip on a warthog gimbal base for the Hornet. System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Rhino FFB base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 RealSimulator force feedback is absolutely the best stick functionality available, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The LT Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 RealSimulator force feedback is absolutely the best stick functionality available, IMO.force feedback? you mean force sensing? My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Hi all, Looking to take the plunge on the FSSB-R3 and thinking about getting the F16SGRH to go along with it instead of my THW Stick... Question 1. FSSB.. just do it and don't look back? Any regrets? Question 2. F16SGRH.. its not painted, just a "rough" resin finish... will that get all gunked-up with sweat/skin and a pita to clean? Not sure I can stomach 2x price for the painted version :noexpression: Question 3. F16SGRH.. worth it over the TMW and maybe getting the angle adapter instead? Thanks! The FSSB R3L base is a must have if you want to fly the Viper the correct way as it emulates the real thing. Not only that you can really fine tune the sensitivity at the level that is not possible with mechanical gimbal (limited by available types of springs and cams). The grip is optional if you want to save money, the Warthog grip is ok with limited functionality compared to F-16SGRH grip. The combination of RS base and grip though is quite amazing, with great flexibility and 512 available DX inputs at your command. Edited August 13, 2020 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchRage Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 thanks for the feedback! Any thoughts on the "rough" resin finish as far as wear/tear/cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) RealSimulator FSSB-R3 and F16SGRH I highly recommend you get the CE. The paint is not the main advantage... the Bluetooth connection is. This means that not only can I use it on my FSSB R3L, but I can put it on my Virpil base and fly the A-10C with it. Worth the $$$. As for the rough resin feel of the non-CE version, I wouldn’t feel bad about that. I have the F18CGRH with that same finish and it’s fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited August 14, 2020 by RogueSqdn DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchRage Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 thanks @RogueSqdn. It wasn't super clear which had BT/didnt need a base, and why that would be a feature :-) assume it still connects to the serial cable for power? Ie it doesnt have a battery in it does it? any other CE features other than BT and "paint"? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) RealSimulator FSSB-R3 and F16SGRH It can draw power from any base that has the TM style connector: ie TM, Virpil, or RealSimulator. No battery. The CE also comes with a 5pin to USB cable to provide direct power in case you want to mount it to a base of your own design, and has X Y and Z axis sensors built in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited August 14, 2020 by RogueSqdn DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchRage Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 I think I'm going to be "pragmatic" and start with the base and angle adapter, and leverage my TMW stick for now... especially since the CE version isnt available till Dec 2021... :-) thanks for the input, the wait begins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 That’s Dec 21, 2020. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchRage Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 Stop spending my $$$! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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