Raven68 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Good to see the progress that's been made on the Harpoon. I do wonder what contributed to the speedy development? I do recall there was some pics of the functionality a few weeks ago, but to follow the targeting pod so fast? I am quite pleased!! :thumbup: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaoqumba Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 ED once said: there are several systems developed at the same time, the workload is very large, because they have not entered the stage of release, so it is inevitable that updates will slow down. Now, I think these efforts have made tremendous progress. Maybe in the next one or two months, we will be constantly updated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intruder_360 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cool Video, i just miss the Air to Ground Radar for to detect a ship in sea mode. :music_whistling: Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A| Case: Thermaltake Overseer RX-I | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 80+ GOLD, 1300W| Mobo: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | CPU: Intel Core i9 9900KS @5 GHz | CPU-Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Tower Cooler | RAM: 32GB G.Skill F4-4133C17-8GTZR | GPU:NVIDIA GeForce RTX4090 OC 24GB |SSD: Samsung SSD 860 M.2 1TB | Keyboard: Logitech G110 | Mouse: Logitech G502 | Gaming Devices: Hotas WW Orion 2 Stick&Throttle, Thrustmaster MFD, Pimax Crystal, Stream Deck XL [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtraChrisP Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) Cool Video, i just miss the Air to Ground Radar for to detect a ship in sea mode. :music_whistling: Well according to the CVW-11 video the AWG-9 is quite capable of detecting surface targets. Apologies for not getting a time stamp to go with it, but I definitely remember him saying something along the lines of "ships stand out like a sore thumb." Idk if that's modeled in the game or if he's just going off real world knowledge, but if it is something we can do in DCS, well, just get some Tomcat buddies in the mission to find those surface contacts for you! Edited August 14, 2019 by XtraChrisP added the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNewLife Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Cant wait to sink the ships with harpoon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog_No32 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 As much as I am looking forward to the Harpoon, I immediately noticed that Wags wording leaves a bit of room for interpretation as to when we will get the Harpoon in the OB. He says „soon“, not „in tonights open beta“... Let‘s hope this is just a „defensive measure“ in case something goes wrong tonight...:music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 How effective is Harpoon? I just tried it and fired 2 missiles against Chinese destroyer, and it shoot down both of them. So result was zero damage to the destroyer. ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 They are not efficient at all. 4 of them did not bring down a Neustrashimy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 How effective is Harpoon? I just tried it and fired 2 missiles against Chinese destroyer, and it shoot down both of them. So result was zero damage to the destroyer.So far minimal. Just tried couple of times against excellent Neutrash ? (dont remember the exact name, the one with TOR SAM) launched 4 at it and all of them intercepted and destroyed. I could do better with Gbu-12 , climb high and drop it from high altitude. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptJodan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Anyone's whose seen the effectiveness of the Ticonderoga class firing its harpoons in game should not be surprised that these missiles aren't too effective. Harpoons seem too old to be effective in a modern day (or even slightly earlier day) battlefield. As for their explosive damage if they hit, Wags said that was being worked on. They know that isn't right yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 How effective is Harpoon? I just tried it and fired 2 missiles against Chinese destroyer, and it shoot down both of them. So result was zero damage to the destroyer. They are not efficient at all. 4 of them did not bring down a Neustrashimy. So far minimal. Just tried couple of times against excellent Neutrash ? (dont remember the exact name, the one with TOR SAM) launched 4 at it and all of them intercepted and destroyed. I could do better with Gbu-12 , climb high and drop it from high altitude. Remember guys, it's still WIP. I am sure there will be some tweaks to the ability of the AI being able to detect/shoot down the Harpoon. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 hm, almost all of my harpoon attempts result in harpoons crashing into sea while approaching the target. no matter the settings. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I made some tries, Medium alt launch can find targets very late and can not go to skim mode at time, overshoot the target. Could hit a Moskva Destroyer with 3 missiles, it caused %30 damage. Ship went its way without problem FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I made some tries, Medium alt launch can find targets very late and can not go to skim mode at time, overshoot the target. Could hit a Moskva Destroyer with 3 missiles, it caused %30 damage. Ship went its way without problem Moskva is cruiser class ship, its a big ship and its heavy defended. Its normal, its a flag ship ot Russian Black Sea Fleet. ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 "Heavily defended" means its armor right? because it didin't respond to harpoons and all 3 of them hit the ship properly FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 "Heavily defended" means its armor right? because it didin't respond to harpoons and all 3 of them hit the ship properly Im not sure for armor, maybe yes, but it has very powerful air-defence systems, including even S-300 (SA-10). So its really very hard to be sunk. :) ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXFIRE TWOONE Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I had four of four shoot downs at the Kuznetsov, Molniya, and Neustrashinny. Intel core I9 10900K 3.7 ghz Asrock Z490 Extreme4 G-SKill Ripjaws V 32GB Cooler Master 120m GTX 980 Superclocked Corsair AX850w psu Samsung 1 T M.2 2 X 850 ssd's Sony 48 in HD TV Trackir 5 Hotas Warthog F/A-18C Hornet Grip Logitech Pro Peddles Windows 10 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonFox Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Looks like the damage model also still WIP. Any ship with a point-defense like Tor, it's better to just drop a GBU-12/16 on it from 30k up. Still, glad to see it now included. F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker328 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It's a slow moving cruise missile. A handful of them are not going to take out a modern destroyer or cruiser. You are either going to need to take out their air defenses ahead of time somehow (i.e. getting lucky with HARMs) or completely saturate them with simultaneous harpoons from multiple launch aircraft (and potentially ships) preferably from multiple directions. One lone wolf with a few harpoons is not going to be successful against anything with modern air defenses or CIWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Since the Harpoon is one of the things I have been waiting for... yay. Thar she blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfr Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I made some tries, Medium alt launch can find targets very late and can not go to skim mode at time, overshoot the target. Could hit a Moskva Destroyer with 3 missiles, it caused %30 damage. Ship went its way without problem I tried going up against merchant vessels just as a test run and had similarly mixed results with MED profile. I think only once I got both missiles to acquire and hit but other times they went long, circled and self destructed. Incidentally, is the moving target tracking for the TPOD meant to work with ships? I ended up using Paveways to finish the job on one pass but had to manually keep the laser on track as it wouldn't lock a moving target like I have done with land vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctguy1955 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 No luck using wags video to get 84D on target. Guess I will have to wait for Grim Reapers or Redkite to make a vid that will explain a little more. Wags makes it look so easy. I am heading 355 and HSI says 110 or something and the agm goes right by the target. I dont have much luck with jets weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I've had luck with unarmed ships, anything with SAMS is another story. Seems like the Harpoon doesn't acquire a target until around 8 miles. At that distance it can't dive into skim mode before being shot down. Also, I know the harpoon is very much WIP, and things will most likely be tweaked. Also, I'm not claiming to be an expert on the AGM-84, and have no idea how far out they'd be able to pick up a large ship in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibis Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just take a Viggen with RB15F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just take a Viggen with RB15F Exocet laughs in Falklands' terrain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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