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Old 01-06-2018, 10:28 AM   #1
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Default AI can't keep up

AI P-51s just take forever to reform, and if I climb out at 2700 45', they drop behind. When I fly Spitfire missions, I make 2 circles above the airfield, and from then on they stick to my wing like glue. On the other hand I can't fly slow enough for AI P-51s to keep up, especially above 20,000 feet. What's wrong? I set 270 kts in the mission editor.

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mmmm... yeah, so your flying at max-cruising and want your wing-men to push their engines into the red to catch up to you, and are complaining that they're not risking blowing their engines to catch up...

Would you also complain if they did risk blowing their engines, and occasionally did? I think there would be an outcry from the community that the AI had gone mad and were blowing their engines through poor engine management like amateurs.

If you want your formation to form-up on you, give them a chance buddy. Fly at 30"MP for a couple minutes, and like Lil' Bo-Peeps sheep, they will 'come home' in no time, though I hope they won't be wagging their tails
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You think I didn't try this? Above 20k they drop behind even if I fly at 30" and 2300 RPM.

Even after takeoff I circle the airfield at this setting and they can never reform.
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Also ,there is A LOT between max cruise and blowing your engine. I don't expect them to fly at 61" 3000RPM.

Try the attached mission. Take off, and fly to France at an altitude of at least 23,000 feet. You'll see what I'm talking about.
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I've been flying the Charwood mission 1, testing a bunch of things, which mostly have nothing to do with the mission itself.

I start with 3 wing men, plus an entire second wing; we are 8 aircraft altogether. I am not seeing any issues with all my wing men catching up to me before I turn south from our airfield at around 8k'.
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I've been flying the Charwood mission 1, testing a bunch of things, which mostly have nothing to do with the mission itself.

I start with 3 wing men, plus an entire second wing; we are 8 aircraft altogether. I am not seeing any issues with all my wing men catching up to me before I turn south from our airfield at around 8k'.
Interesting. Have you tried above 22k feet? What power settings do you use?
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By and large, AI does a very poor job flying formation.

Station keeping isn't bad, but the geometry flown for rejoins is non-existent. You can't catch anything if you only fly pure or lag pursuit curves.
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I've done a lot of testing lately.. The AI has no problem catching up up to 12,000 feet. Above that, it's starting to become a problem, and above 20-22,000 feet there is no way to keep them from lagging behind. I'm really curious what could cause this, but I haven't been able to figure it out. Somehow they can't accelerate that fast, I was even thinking about their supercharger. But the nI turned mine off, and I still pulled away at 30" MP
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I had mustangs to follow B-17s at 20,000 they cant do it.
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Any news on this please? I've done more testing, and this AI behavior is a real pain for mission builders. Some planes are more prone to it than others. Spitfires can keep in formation, but run their engines so high they run out of fuel way before me.

It mostly affects the Mustang and the Sabre. Try flying at 25k feet or higher, you'll need to fly the P-51 at near stall speeds in order not to pull away from your flight. Same goes for the Sabre, they lag well behind around 30k feet, even lower.

I always fly by the book, at cruise settings, before anyone asks.
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