msalama Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It was done every now and then, but the procedure was far from straightforward and the ground crews certainly wouldn't go the trouble on just a say-so. So I'm siding with Yo-Yo myself. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OperatorJack Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Gun convergence is such a convenient feature in every WW2 flight sim ever it baffles me how DCS just deliberately forgoes including it /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDrummer Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I have to agree that bombs and drop tanks are required. I have them pre-bound to my controller in anticipation. Did the LF MK IX not have a latch to hold the brake lever? A binding for that would be helpful although I have a workaround or my own controller. The only time I have to touch a mouse or a keyboard is when I choose to re-arm and re-fuel which of course lets you pick how much of which to load. It would be great If a "default full load or something" button could be highlighted When one chose to re-arm and re-fuel and a simple "enter" pulse could pick it. That would certainly round out the package for myself. All of the aforementioned tweaks in previous posts of course are expected and we remain hopeful. I find the Spit far more polished in the controls department than the Axis warbirds. Every switch should have an OFF, ON AND Toggle binding that can be referred to in a keybind and in complete working condition before any Aircraft gets to come out of Alpha in my opinion. Absolutely no binding should be mouse only. More specifically one should not have to "mouse over" any button to make it operate by clicking it although that "option" is acceptable and should be available to those that prefer it. I enjoy reaching for an actual switch personally. The Spit fills that bill. I'll settle for the fuel drop tank. I Love my Spitfire. Win 10 pro 64 bit. Intel i7 4790 4 Ghz running at 4.6. Asus z97 pro wifi main board, 32 gig 2400 ddr3 gold ram, 50 inch 4K UHD and HDR TV for monitor. H80 cpu cooler. 8 other cooling fans in full tower server case. Soundblaster ZX sound card. EVGA 1080 TI FTW3. TM Hotas Wartog. TM T.16000M MFG Crosswinds Pedals. Trackir 5. "Everyone should fly a Spitfire at least once" John S. Blyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm also with Yo-Yo here. It wasn't really up to every pilot to decide what their convergence should be. Maybe some COs and big aces, but mostly they had to work with what they had. Drop tanks and bombs are much higher on my priority list. Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 No-one really knows how often pilots/ ground crews adjusted convergences. Yep, not too many anecdotes about it. Whereas the usual gets mentioned a lot, because it happens often and many folks have experience of it. So the lack of evidence kind of proves itself that it was rare, does it not ;) it baffles me how DCS just deliberately forgoes including it Because it was a complex undertaking. And as such, not something you could've put on a "slider" IRL either. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstyle Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It wasn't really up to every pilot to decide what their convergence should be. Maybe some COs and big aces, but mostly they had to work with what they had. t. Source? Because I am almost certain that's made up. On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/philstylenz Storm of War WW2 server website: https://stormofwar.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Source? Because I am almost certain that's made up. What Reflected said was what I understand the situation to be as well. There were more than one threads on this topic here a year or so ago. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Remember, in the Mi-8, the previously features as minelayer launcher equipment and bombing sight was deleted after release. The clipped wing 3D model has actually into the game, that require a new FM by the different performance (better turn rate). I cant believe the bombing sight was nerfed... :mad: I missed a whole lot of things apparently. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charly_Owl Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 (edited) Gun convergence is such a convenient feature in every WW2 flight sim ever it baffles me how DCS just deliberately forgoes including it Key word is "convenient", not "realistic". I live perfectly fine without a simmerism like that. I can hardly imagine IRL ground crews were setting up custom convergence for every single airframe they work on. Especially since specific airframes didn't belong to the pilots themselves; any pilot could be flying any airframe within the same squadron. They were already busy enough as it is. Some famous pilots may have requested specific convergences but I don't think that was the norm at all. I've yet to find sources that claim that custom convergences were the norm for RAF squadrons. Edited May 12, 2018 by Charly_Owl Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0414 Wee Neal Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Convergence question Hi this is an interesting subject and one that is steeped in the unknown, anecdotes and little written facts. I did come across the following: The mission of the RAF would be to intercept bomber attacks over England...and because of the distances involved, that tended to rule out the bombers being escorted by fighters. Few imagined that the Luftwaffe might operate from bases in France and the Low Countries, thereby permitting the use of fighters over England. During 1940 the official standard for convergence was reduced to a more acceptable 250 yards, the RAF's sgt pilots were not allowed to change their guns settings. However the officers were allowed to change the guns convergence, some of the higher scoring aces had their guns set to converge at 50 yards. (maybe 50 yards was the absolute minimum?) source - http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/02487.php There is a written description in the last post of this thread. Neal Desktop PC: Intel i7 14700K, MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk MOBO, 64Gb RAM , GPU Nvidia RTX 3080ti Windows 11, VPC joystick, Crosswind rudder peddles, HP Reverb G2, VPC Collective, DOF Reality H2, Gametrix seat, WinWing panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Did the LF MK IX not have a latch to hold the brake lever? Yes and this latch is (3D) modeled in DCS Spitfire, but their function/command is not programmed. BTW - Until last update "Lubber Line" in compass still wrong, turning with Course Setter scale instead be fixed in 12:00 o'clock position. From compass description in DCS Spit manual - under 'Navigation Equipment': "Under the glass is the Lubber Line - a thin wire, against is set the compass rose. This line serve as index for determining the course. What is impaired if the Lubber Line turn together with 'compass rose' (Course Setter), like happens actually. Edited May 14, 2018 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDrummer Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Thanks Sokol1_br. That is all good information. Much appreciated. Win 10 pro 64 bit. Intel i7 4790 4 Ghz running at 4.6. Asus z97 pro wifi main board, 32 gig 2400 ddr3 gold ram, 50 inch 4K UHD and HDR TV for monitor. H80 cpu cooler. 8 other cooling fans in full tower server case. Soundblaster ZX sound card. EVGA 1080 TI FTW3. TM Hotas Wartog. TM T.16000M MFG Crosswinds Pedals. Trackir 5. "Everyone should fly a Spitfire at least once" John S. Blyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OperatorJack Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 How about we get the feature for those that want it, and then if you're too constrained by realism then just keep it set to the accepted historical value? /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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